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In reply to the discussion: White House Defends NSA Collection Of Phone Records [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)95. So that gets him off the hook for any torture that is happening now? Wow, to what lengths will
you go to rationalize?
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Remember TIA? This is the tip of the iceberg. Expect same with credit card and checking
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#1
A lot of white house pronouncements smell like Poindexter's "Truth Maintenance" too.
PSPS
Jun 2013
#15
I(s there ANYTHING from the Bush era that the current administration won't defend?
hobbit709
Jun 2013
#3
No. But it will take alot of money to close it, and congress controls the spending.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#37
It costs ALOT to keep it open. But the Republican controlled congress absolutely adores Gitmo.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#49
Besides the expense, which I believe is well worth it, GOP congress LOVES Gitmo.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#106
Ah yes, the "Obama is helpless" argument. I wish George Bush would have been that helpless. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#97
Where did I say he's helpless? I said congress controls spending. Is that true or false?
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#100
And why did you bother to tell us something that is obvious? Were you making an implication? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#103
Obviously it wasn't so obvious. You'd be surprised at how many people think he has a magic wand.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#104
Good grief. You are sticking by the argument that the President has no power. Cant argue with
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#112
No need to argue. It's called a conversation, but if you're done then I guess I'm done. Oh well.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#114
Yes I think we've come to an impasse. And arguing isnt bad. It's what Democrats do. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#115
Yeah. Using questions to make a point isnt the best method. Try stating your argument as a
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#118
So that gets him off the hook for any torture that is happening now? Wow, to what lengths will
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#95
Plezzzzz. Your "factual statement" was wrought with implication. Plezz. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#105
I don't get what you're saying. Are you disagreeing with the statement I made?
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#109
Hell no. But why did you make such a statement? Were you implying that Pres Obama was
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#111
My statement was that he is powerless on closing Gitmo. You need money, congress has it.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#113
TIA never died. It morphed into an operational NSA program, Thin Thread, and this is part of it.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#4
"a critical tool in protecting the nation from terrorist threats." I feel much better.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#5
Yeah. "If you haven't done anything wrong blah blah" and "My life is so boring who cares
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#8
LOL. Yeah I expected that. "If they are only brutalizing the diry hippies, I dont care."
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#93
Oh yes. And "but they don't actually record the calls themselves" [yeah right] and
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#39
There is an ongoing court case; remember, those affected are everyone
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#11
Most of we think of as modern day terrorists are made by someone killing their friends, family...
RC
Jun 2013
#80
But Tamerlan did give them some reason to think he might do something
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#26
I agree there probably wasn't much they could have done abbout the brothers
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#65
And when the next attack happens we will all be crying, "Why didn't our intel pick this up?"
kelliekat44
Jun 2013
#10
”Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.”
tblue
Jun 2013
#83
Um, if it's not done in secret then it would tip off would be terrorists, who try to stay one step
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#18
I sort of agree, but they actually have caught over 200 suspected terrorists here in America
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#21
True, but they were setup because of their suspicion possibly due to phone records.
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#36
All or at least most of those were sting operations, where the 'guilty' had no real way of carrying
RC
Jun 2013
#34
This is unfortunate, but not illegal. What is even more unfortunate is much of the populous had no
still_one
Jun 2013
#57
Not sure about that, with fiisa and all the other bs they did with the patriot act, I do not think
still_one
Jun 2013
#69
Just exactly who and what is this man we elected in 2008 and reelected in 2012.
Leontius
Jun 2013
#92
Any time a bill is introduced in Congress lots of thought should be put into the
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#116