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44. Hopefully your for-profit companies can be trusted over the other for-profit companies!

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Tue May 21, 2013, 04:16 PM

May 2013

With even less oversight and fewer regulations. Good luck!

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B vitamins could delay dementia [View all] socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 OP

LOL trotsky May 2013 #1

Drug companies also make Linbrel, an extract of Scutelleria Baicalensis(chinese skullcap). socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #2

From another for-profit company making medicine. trotsky May 2013 #4

No I don't. Skullcap can be grown in the backyard and made into a 5-1 extract in your kitchen. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #12

The study you posted didn't test ANY of those things. trotsky May 2013 #18

Look at the doses in the study. Foods can be included in the diet that are equivalent. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #23

Thanks for letting me know I'm wasting any further time. trotsky May 2013 #25

Agree drugs are overpriced, but they do work. Deep13 May 2013 #29

Natural treatments worked long before clinical testing was thought of. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #31

And some also didn't work. progressoid May 2013 #35

Yes not all plants are therapeutic, but not all studies done in the U.S. are unbiased. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #37

"all have gone through their respective countries version of the FDA" progressoid May 2013 #46

Nothing you posted mentions any of the natural compounds that are PRESCRIBED worldwide. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #55

I'm confused by your posts. progressoid May 2013 #61

Well naturally if you jumple them up, mix them around, they will make no contextual sense. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #96

No they didn't. Deep13 May 2013 #54

Your understanding is limited. Berberine, Gingerols, Bacosides a-b, Curcumin have all socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #57

Would love to see what evidence you are relying on. nt Deep13 May 2013 #77

Try PUBMED. Its full of studies focusing on these compounds alone, as well as thousands of other socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #97

And the drugs you talk of don't timdog44 May 2013 #48

Then they are not double-blind studies. Deep13 May 2013 #58

Thats how pharma works. Use influence to alter studies, studies which are often funded by taxes socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #60

And your evidence is...? nt Deep13 May 2013 #79

Chemotherapy, in most instances timdog44 May 2013 #65

I Must Say I Do Agree With Your Comments. ChiciB1 May 2013 #72

I have to say timdog44 May 2013 #102

Yes, it's overpriced. No argument there. Capitalism sucks. Deep13 May 2013 #80

Quick Question... ChiciB1 May 2013 #36

There are much more absorbable forms such as methycobalamin and adenosylcobalamin, both active forms socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #38

So You Suggest Taking A ChiciB1 May 2013 #71

Those two compounds are sublingual socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #98

I assume you are talking timdog44 May 2013 #66

No, Injections Don't Bother Me... ChiciB1 May 2013 #70

I hope I did not timdog44 May 2013 #81

Alzheimers is no joke, trots. bettyellen May 2013 #5

Not making a joke about Alzheimers, bett. trotsky May 2013 #8

There are plenty of vitamin manufacturers that aren't owned by Merck or Pfizer or gateley May 2013 #7

Oh, so some drug companies are OK? trotsky May 2013 #10

You know the answer already. longship May 2013 #19

Yes, I wish these discussions could get past the black-and-white... trotsky May 2013 #24

Supplements must go through rigorous clinical trials in much of the rest of the world. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #27

In the USA, supplements are regulated as food. longship May 2013 #39

Kira is a regulated formulation that went through clinical trials and is monitored by E.U. Fda socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #43

But it's natural! longship May 2013 #50

It natural and was proven more effective than other synthetics, thats why it's 1# prescribed socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #59

Do you chew willow bark? longship May 2013 #63

No that's not where aspirin comes from. Aspirin is synthetic. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #99

Yes, willow bark. longship May 2013 #101

Yeah. Zoeisright May 2013 #83

Anybody who believes in Big Pharma's "proof" of efficacy or safety is a fool. gateley May 2013 #87

''Let food be thy medicine, and let thy medicine be food.'' Hippocrates n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #17

Hippocrates also believed in thoroughly-discredited Humorism. trotsky May 2013 #21

True..... DeSwiss May 2013 #68

All I can say is timdog44 May 2013 #42

Hopefully your for-profit companies can be trusted over the other for-profit companies! trotsky May 2013 #44

If you think big pharma has any kind of oversight timdog44 May 2013 #45

Sorry, I don't see things in black-and-white extremes like you. n/t trotsky May 2013 #53

Funny, that is what I thought you were doing. timdog44 May 2013 #56

Wrong. I view both with reasonable suspicion. trotsky May 2013 #88

Again timdog44 May 2013 #90

LOL trotsky May 2013 #91

You are just all over the place. timdog44 May 2013 #92

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! Zoeisright May 2013 #84

You don't have the slightest idea of my background. timdog44 May 2013 #89

But selling a bottle of vitamins for a few dollars isn't so unreasonable. Kablooie May 2013 #93

Gotta look at the profit margin. trotsky May 2013 #94

Thanks -- Hope they really pursue this. gateley May 2013 #3

You don't think someone makes a profit off selling vitamins? trotsky May 2013 #6

I'm not against the profit, I'm against having the FDA in your pocket and suppressing gateley May 2013 #9

Vitamin companies have shareholders, too. trotsky May 2013 #11

There's a BIG difference between Big Pharma and gateley May 2013 #13

Is there really? trotsky May 2013 #28

Hey, if Kevin Trudeau says it works, that's good enough for me. progressoid May 2013 #47

*SNORT* trotsky May 2013 #51

Okay, you win -- I've seen the light! gateley May 2013 #76

Oh bullshit. Zoeisright May 2013 #85

First of all, timdog44 May 2013 #95

I don't get it- do you think no research or info should be shared because of the profit angle? bettyellen May 2013 #15

The truth will out. Eventaully people will realize they have been swindled and bamboozled. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #16

Our bodies just want is to live like nature intended. nt scrubthedata May 2013 #14

Nature intended for us to die when we're are 35 years old. Deep13 May 2013 #26

Nature provides treatments for everything you mentioned. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #30

Then why did young people die in droves back then? Deep13 May 2013 #49

People died because of SUPERSTITION, FEARS OF WITCHCRAFT ETC socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #62

Sorry, but you're dead wrong in your subject line. Deep13 May 2013 #78

Your understanding of history is quite flawed socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #100

The cure to Alzheimer's is cheap, generic, and over the counter. The Stranger May 2013 #20

Could Be True... ChiciB1 May 2013 #73

That's just cruel. Zoeisright May 2013 #86

Large doses of a specific vitamin is not a natural remedy. Deep13 May 2013 #22

The doses studied can be obtained from the diet:) socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #32

So why do my grandparents have dementia? Deep13 May 2013 #52

Our doctor in Europe prescribed vitamin B for my husband, and I started taking it too, way JDPriestly May 2013 #33

My mother was an accomplished pianist and No Vested Interest May 2013 #64

My stepfather was a professional organist and accomplished pianist Lydia Leftcoast May 2013 #74

My mother could also play the piano No Vested Interest May 2013 #82

People with skin cancer less like to develop Alzheimer's joc46224 May 2013 #34

Awesome! Phlem May 2013 #40

I've bee taking B vitamins for over 20 years. olddad56 May 2013 #41

Yet studies show that high levels of folate/folic acid which is a B vitamin snagglepuss May 2013 #67

I have a great memory, it is just short. olddad56 May 2013 #75

My B-complex caps have no folic acid & only 5 mg of B6 Hekate May 2013 #69

Vitamin B in all forms timdog44 May 2013 #103