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grantcart

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74. I read it and Greenwalds recitation of the facts backs post 59
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:29 PM
May 2013

1) The investigation was not focusing on the reporter but on a state department leaker

2) The 'investigation' involved tracing back movement by the reporter in the State Department

and

3) Getting a warrant for 2 days of emails and all emails to Kim.

Now here is where Greenwald famously goes off the tracks, as he almost always does.

He characterizes the leaks as being nothing more than normal chit chat:



Kim did not obtain unauthorized access to classified information, nor steal documents, nor sell secrets, nor pass them to an enemy of the US. Instead, the DOJ alleges that he merely communicated this innocuous information to a journalist - something done every day in Washington



So you might want to read the links that Greenwald incorporates because they completely contradict his characterization. Here is what HIS linked source said was the offending reporting:



U.S. intelligence officials have warned President Obama and other senior American officials that North Korea intends to respond to the passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution this week -- condemning the communist country for its recent nuclear and ballistic missile tests -- with another nuclear test, FOX News has learned.

What's more, Pyongyang's next nuclear detonation is but one of four planned actions the Central Intelligence Agency has learned, through sources inside North Korea, that the regime of Kim Jong-Il intends to take -- but not announce -- once the Security Council resolution is officially passed, likely on Friday.

The other three actions include the reprocessing of all of the North's spent plutonium fuel rods into weapons-grade plutonium; a major escalation in the North's uranium-enrichment program; and the launching of another Taepodong-2 intercontinental ballistic missile from the Yunsong military complex on the west coast of North Korea. The North last launched a Taepodong-2 on April 5; it conducted its second nuclear test in the last three years on Memorial Day.

The intelligence community only learned of North Korea's plans this week, prompting CIA to alert senior officials. Asked who would be briefed on this kind of data, a source told FOX News: "The top people: POTUS, DNI." "POTUS" is acronym for the president of the United States; "DNI" refers to the director of the Office of National Intelligence.


Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/node/1419#ixzz2TqoXkI1B


So it was not, as Greenwald says, everyday non classified material, but highly sensitive material that also discloses that the source of the information came from a source within North Korea, which, obviously, is something that is highly sensitive and very likely to have terrible consequences for the source and future attempts by the US to get good information.

As usual Greenwald cherry picks his points.
Good zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #1
sensible considering Fox is a threat to democracy Swagman May 2013 #2
They should be happy to show that they have nothing to hide. graegoyle May 2013 #3
Exactly! zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #15
Well, then the next time you're pulled over premium May 2013 #18
I thnk it was meant as scarcasm. yourout May 2013 #20
Jeeeeeeeeeez, I hope so, premium May 2013 #24
Correct and correct. mac56 May 2013 #22
That's not the point, premium May 2013 #26
are you really that obtuse? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #29
Are you really that ok with spying on reporters? nt. premium May 2013 #31
I am oK with making a joke zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #41
Next time, premium May 2013 #51
Poe's Law is operating all over this site today. (nt) Jackpine Radical May 2013 #84
True, very true. premium May 2013 #86
There are NO reporters at Faux Politicalboi May 2013 #58
That may be, premium May 2013 #62
Well there's a good point treestar May 2013 #129
It wasn't about spying on reporters jberryhill May 2013 #126
Are you really calling this guy a reporter? Blue_Tires May 2013 #134
I'm confused as to how this is a 'crisis' wercal May 2013 #44
You do realize that Fox "News" supported this kind of activity during the Bush administration. W T F May 2013 #50
I don't care who supported it, premium May 2013 #52
Thank you pmorlan1 May 2013 #88
After all the years Faux has been lying Politicalboi May 2013 #56
Tsk, Tsk. premium May 2013 #63
Fox has defended lawsuits where they were sued for reporting false info with the claim that they are okaawhatever May 2013 #113
You don't think this is intended as a chilling effect? premium May 2013 #118
How do you know he didn't commit a crime? Kingofalldems May 2013 #124
How do you know he did? premium May 2013 #141
You claimed he didn't commit a crime Kingofalldems May 2013 #143
Uh, no you didn't get an answer on the fox thing, premium May 2013 #144
Fox news and guns Kingofalldems May 2013 #145
Whatever makes you feel good. premium May 2013 #146
Fake news is gonna called Iliyah May 2013 #4
This is a serious problem Android3.14 May 2013 #5
Exactly. premium May 2013 #8
Justice Department officals went to a Federal magistrate and obtained a search warrant Cali_Democrat May 2013 #136
What bounds are those? COLGATE4 May 2013 #17
Like we have a free press. 6000eliot May 2013 #27
that's true NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #68
Yes serious indeed humbled_opinion May 2013 #32
and he did it for ratings. BlueToTheBone May 2013 #57
Like freedom of speech, freedom of press is not absolute. cosmicone May 2013 #53
are we talking about Freedom of the Press, or freedom to disseminate false information? olddad56 May 2013 #80
Freedom of the press doesnt protect the press from the government cstanleytech May 2013 #94
Not only that, there wasn't any wiretapping. They used badge logs and narrowed it down from 95 okaawhatever May 2013 #112
News Corp has been reported as a Criminal Organization of Law Breakers Submariner May 2013 #98
You do realize this information was available Nov 2011 and was only reported today. A little bit okaawhatever May 2013 #110
I'm still content to wait four or five days Blue_Tires May 2013 #133
Justice Department officals went to a Federal magistrate and otained a search warrant Cali_Democrat May 2013 #137
Obama's War on Journalism DesMoinesDem May 2013 #6
War on journalism? cosmicone May 2013 #54
your war on truth sigmasix May 2013 #92
Fauz can't ring up the terrorist to give them Seal Team 6 info. BobbyBoring May 2013 #131
Am I the only one here that thinks this is a bad thing? premium May 2013 #7
Are you outraged a Jonathan Carl and the republican lies Kingofalldems May 2013 #125
Of course I am premium May 2013 #142
First they came for Fox News, and I said nothing ... starroute May 2013 #9
Well said, premium May 2013 #11
Nobody 'came' for Fox News or the AP. They are after the leaker emulatorloo May 2013 #59
Really? premium May 2013 #66
I read it and Greenwalds recitation of the facts backs post 59 grantcart May 2013 #74
Doesn't change the fact that the DoJ premium May 2013 #79
The DOJ never attempted to charge Rosen Cali_Democrat May 2013 #139
"AP Leak ended informant's rare opportunity, why DOJ went after AP records" emulatorloo May 2013 #108
I'll give this a read. Thanks. nt. premium May 2013 #109
leaking classified information is a crime simpify May 2013 #10
I can't believe that you condone spying on reporters, premium May 2013 #13
And what about leaks that harm Iliyah May 2013 #21
This DoJ knows the difference. premium May 2013 #28
I trust this government over Iliyah May 2013 #33
So I'll put you down as spying on reporters is ok, premium May 2013 #36
But you do understand wercal May 2013 #47
Quick Fix: Stop accepting phone calls and e-mails from government leakers. nt Pragdem May 2013 #12
So we just trust the govt and every thing they tell us, premium May 2013 #14
When someone is stupid enough to use Government phones and email they deserve scrutiny. gordianot May 2013 #16
This is about spying on a reporter, not the State Dept. guy. premium May 2013 #19
If a reporter acts like a spy CJCRANE May 2013 #25
So it's ok to spy on reporters if they act like a spy? premium May 2013 #30
So can a reporter or leaker never do any harm and always be immune from the law? CJCRANE May 2013 #35
Ridiculous. premium May 2013 #37
I don't think South Korea nor Japan Iliyah May 2013 #42
Is it really that important to you to put people into categories? mac56 May 2013 #43
Faux NEVER reports the truth Politicalboi May 2013 #61
So who leaked the Benghazi emails and what was the motive? CJCRANE May 2013 #70
Then you should be prosecuted, premium May 2013 #73
Reporters cannot be prosecuted for reporting B2G May 2013 #38
Fair enough. But reporters can ruin their careers if they report false information. nt CJCRANE May 2013 #72
What was reported that is false? nt B2G May 2013 #75
Just making a general point. CJCRANE May 2013 #76
Reporters can also ruin their careers by revealing their sources B2G May 2013 #78
Like what Jon Karl did with ABC news Iliyah May 2013 #39
Exactly. nt CJCRANE May 2013 #71
I find it hard to believe humbled_opinion May 2013 #34
I really don't care John2 May 2013 #65
What I disagree with is the govt. premium May 2013 #67
more to the point, people think choie May 2013 #128
They took his personal emails B2G May 2013 #23
And not one person at FOX or the AP has been arrested for their reporting. Pragdem May 2013 #40
How do you think the DOJ was able to get the search warrant? B2G May 2013 #46
OMG pmorlan1 May 2013 #89
They should charge him with the crime of No Personality. hrmjustin May 2013 #45
I hate Faux - Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #48
I don't mean to be rude to WAPO, but reviewing government records is NOT "spying." MADem May 2013 #49
+1. There is a lot of smoke blowing and hyperbole here. emulatorloo May 2013 #60
Looks less like spying on FOX and more like spying on the CIA. People get killed from leaks. freshwest May 2013 #119
Faux is NOT news Politicalboi May 2013 #55
So? bluedigger May 2013 #64
^^^This TroglodyteScholar May 2013 #69
Again, what criminal activity did they undertake? B2G May 2013 #77
Thank you. premium May 2013 #81
My head would not explode. bluedigger May 2013 #82
Again, you are wrong B2G May 2013 #83
I think blue meant that the person who disclosed the cstanleytech May 2013 #95
But it's not illegal for a reporter to publish classified info., premium May 2013 #85
Unwarranted Act by DOJ pmorlan1 May 2013 #91
+1 treestar May 2013 #127
Getting information from leakers will get you investigated KingFlorez May 2013 #87
Why would they do that? Ash_F May 2013 #97
It was simply a hypothetical about why leaks are not a small issue KingFlorez May 2013 #132
So, just because some random FBI AGENT ... brett_jv May 2013 #90
Partisanship Blinds Us to Abuse of Power pmorlan1 May 2013 #93
I get what you're saying, but you're missing my question ... brett_jv May 2013 #122
Wow, I'm conflicted tavalon May 2013 #96
Last time I checked Abq_Sarah May 2013 #105
Good point tavalon May 2013 #106
When you work directly for Big Brother, you're likely to be caught. HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #99
Did James Rosen break any laws? HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #100
According to doj yes. One problem is there aren't good laws right now. Most go back to the Espionage okaawhatever May 2013 #114
The article says... HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #116
This was justified. Considering Murdoch's phone hacking scandal. Dawson Leery May 2013 #101
If a reporter is passing national security secrets to a foreign country, how should it be handled... WhoWoodaKnew May 2013 #102
That's not what happened here. premium May 2013 #103
Wow...that was a brutal press conference today B2G May 2013 #104
They weren't cutting him any slack at all, premium May 2013 #107
Fox news exists solely to elect republicans Kingofalldems May 2013 #123
They did so well, getting Mitt Romney elected and all. Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #147
That's their purpose Kingofalldems May 2013 #148
They can still investigate to see who did the leak treestar May 2013 #130
WaPo just now: Fox calls DOJ investigation of reporter “downright chilling” alp227 May 2013 #111
I've got a feeling that this isn't going to end well premium May 2013 #115
I've been wondering the exact same things... HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #117
Where is THIS ... reported OFFICIALLY? brett_jv May 2013 #121
If it was all legally done though cstanleytech May 2013 #135
Why this reporter? Because he was the one that received classified information from Kim Cali_Democrat May 2013 #138
If the intelligence concerns events in the past, I see little problem with news media JDPriestly May 2013 #120
''What I am interested in, as you might expect, is breaking news ahead of my competitors'' DeSwiss May 2013 #140
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