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jeff47

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63. There is nothing in politics as popular as contraception

Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:01 PM

Feb 2012

Absolutely nothing. MASSIVE majorities like contraception. Very large majorities want to make it available to as many people as possible and as cheaply as possible.

Using contraception to get to abortion is about as effective as supporting pedophilia to get to abortion. It's incredibly stupid, and will be incredibly ineffective. Especially since we used contraception to fight off attempts to end abortion. Those "personhood" amendments failed because of the effect they would have on contraception.

So why not just compromise on this one? What is lost?

About 51% of voters. They're called women.

We might want to, ya know, not toss aside women to please a small block of men who won't vote for anyone with a (D) after their name.

Legally, its a tough case, either way.

No, it's a trivial case that has already been decided by the SCOTUS in our favor. There is no need to compromise with people who just un-apologized for raping children.

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Pro-Choice GOP Warns Party That Contraception Fight Will Be A Disaster [View all] kpete Feb 2012 OP

They sure better listen to the republicans on this issue. They will lose. Women will not vote southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #1

Rubio Bill Lets ANY Employer Deny Birth Control Coverage OregonBlue Feb 2012 #75

If the GOP wants to shoot themselves in the foot, there's a nice pink Hope handgun available. tanyev Feb 2012 #2

Republican hands should never touch a Walther gejohnston Feb 2012 #9

Somebody overcompensating? calimary Feb 2012 #31

more likely taking up elephant hunting gejohnston Feb 2012 #44

Shhhhhh 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #3

Like lemmings over a cliff peace frog Feb 2012 #42

There are pro-choice Republicans? baldguy Feb 2012 #4

Well, there are gay Republicans, stillwaiting Feb 2012 #6

Beautiful. Just dazzling. +1 x 10 to the 99th WheelWalker Feb 2012 #7

wealth as your first and ultimate priority AlbertCat Feb 2012 #35

Personally, I can't imagine why they'd focus on establishing state-supported=tax-exempt religion patrice Feb 2012 #5

I hope this destroys the anti-woman Republicans RainDog Feb 2012 #8

RainDog.. pangaia Feb 2012 #14

that would be a wonderful thing RainDog Feb 2012 #24

I agree, except bayareaboy Feb 2012 #51

Why do republicans hate women?? Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #10

for their freedoms. eyewall Feb 2012 #11

+10000 RainDog Feb 2012 #12

lol wryter2000 Feb 2012 #47

For our uteruses. Rozlee Feb 2012 #19

Perhaps if women took them on strike Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #20

You're almost right, Rozlee! hamsterjill Feb 2012 #54

It is so in character for the republicans eyewall Feb 2012 #13

And here's the other Republican response: sakabatou Feb 2012 #15

My painting Dirty Secret Zoonart Feb 2012 #41

Incredible Firebrand Gary Feb 2012 #48

'Ferguson calls the Republican rhetoric on contraception "crossing the line"...' unkachuck Feb 2012 #16

If ever there was a clarion call for a losing battle, this would be the one. Arkana Feb 2012 #17

gosh darn it Iliyah Feb 2012 #18

Against birth control? The GOP is a century behind the times and so out kiranon Feb 2012 #21

that would be a GREAT Catholic woman protest RainDog Feb 2012 #23

McCain lost the female vote by 14%. Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #22

Compromise: Give them the exception they want then take away their tax-exempt status. n/t Lil Missy Feb 2012 #25

Let the country see what the republicans really stand for. A war against people still_one Feb 2012 #26

Why do any of the "pro-choice" people stay in the GOP? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #27

Betty Ford... dadzilla Feb 2012 #28

Probably they think they'll play less in taxes. tblue Feb 2012 #53

Santorum won trifecta... SayIt Feb 2012 #29

This is just so offensive to me. Why do they think they get to decide for the women that they can't IndyJones Feb 2012 #30

they'll pass the plate when it comes to their boner action Skittles Feb 2012 #56

That's what came to my mind about the komen scandal. calimary Feb 2012 #32

Apparently, she hasn't realized her party IS the "realm of the fringy extreme." n/t beac Feb 2012 #33

Compromise. Otherwise? This single issue loses the election for Democrats Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #34

So why not give consciencious objectors, a religious exemption? AlbertCat Feb 2012 #36

Think about your entire post. jeff47 Feb 2012 #40

Contraception is lead-up to abortion issue. Which traditionally throws 2-19% of vote to Repubs Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #62

There is nothing in politics as popular as contraception jeff47 Feb 2012 #63

Maybe. But ... this is the very issue that is pushing Santorum up, up, up! Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #65

Fantastic jeff47 Feb 2012 #68

Contraception issue can lead to religion issue, and Santorum; problems? Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #70

His voters would vote for that candidate anyway jeff47 Feb 2012 #72

The Catholic vote is variable; don't lose it Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #73

Pick up the ones who like contraception instead of trying, failing to get the ones that don't. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2012 #74

Granting religious exemption loses nothing practically speaking; and gains some votes? Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #76

The President apparently agrees that some compromise is in order; Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #79

Have You Ever Heard Of Roe v. Wade DallasNE Feb 2012 #71

You can always count on the Rethugs to overreach CanonRay Feb 2012 #37

Help destory the Repuke Brand, call or email your Republican senator/rep and tell them they need to Katashi_itto Feb 2012 #38

Do they even realize how many women are prescribed birth control as a tool to glowing Feb 2012 #39

Get religion out of the First Amendment. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #43

Show me just where in "Obama's Policy" does it force the use of birth control on any one? RC Feb 2012 #45

I think that this will cause them to lose too Nikia Feb 2012 #46

More discourse in the republican party liberal N proud Feb 2012 #49

Those screaming about contraception are the same people who freaked out when they heard that Maineman Feb 2012 #50

I disagree. rtw Feb 2012 #52

LOLOL Skittles Feb 2012 #55

Do you have more expertise on employment law and the Constitution than does David Boies? spooky3 Feb 2012 #59

Because they're free, right? jeff47 Feb 2012 #66

Hello, Most Catholics Use Contraception DallasNE Feb 2012 #69

they were fine with it until Obama! Skittles Feb 2012 #57

How Ironic To Deny Hospital Workers Medical Benefits DallasNE Feb 2012 #58

It's pretty simple arithmetic spooky3 Feb 2012 #60

Pro-Choice GOP? KamaAina Feb 2012 #61

Now Here Is An Effective Line Of Attack DallasNE Feb 2012 #64

Not really. jeff47 Feb 2012 #67

If we had single payer healthcare, all of this would be moot. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #77

Let them cut their own throats! nt and-justice-for-all Feb 2012 #78

Kick! sarcasmo Feb 2012 #80