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The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
113. Wow. I should no longer be surprised by this sort of response.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:05 PM
Feb 2012

This may not register through your adopted outrage and righteousness, but what I said has nothing to do with what the issue is about, it has to do with the way that people react so unrealistically to it. I can cut and paste the exact same post in response to virtually any compromise made by the administration and it would be just as accurate.

I should have known at least someone would make this about sexism. Figures.

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #1
Children. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #70
How superior of you zipplewrath Feb 2012 #90
You think I'm commenting on the issue itself? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #117
You seem to believe you have a unique understanding of "reality" zipplewrath Feb 2012 #128
No, it's not 'nice'. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #129
Um, you made it about them zipplewrath Feb 2012 #130
Good observation! The Doctor. Feb 2012 #131
Translation: JoeyT Feb 2012 #95
Wow. I should no longer be surprised by this sort of response. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #113
Yes, and what a terrible stretch it was to make. JoeyT Feb 2012 #123
That post didn't say anything about women. boppers Feb 2012 #124
And if this were about same sex marriage, The Doctor. Feb 2012 #127
Anyone can be wrong sometimes. And sometimes one has to sound condescending when talking to idiots. 20score Feb 2012 #103
And if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #111
Unfortunately for you we're a country of religious tolerance. vaberella Feb 2012 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #94
this deserves it's own thread frylock Feb 2012 #107
This is the government! vaberella Feb 2012 #112
This has nothing to do with "religious tolerance", so plez dont play that card. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #108
Actually it has a whole lot to do with religious tolerance. vaberella Feb 2012 #110
I see it as special treatment. The "church" doesnt have to follow a law because of a "moral code" rhett o rick Feb 2012 #120
You know, I almost can't believe I'm saying this, but I just heard that many of the gateley Feb 2012 #2
Only a tiny sliver of Catholics give a damn about this. onehandle Feb 2012 #5
Yeah, so I'm surprised at the outcry. gateley Feb 2012 #10
Feh kenfrequed Feb 2012 #24
What hypocrisy! For those who are rich and are "against abortion" and truedelphi Feb 2012 #75
(heavily pushed by the RW echo chamber) . . . .n/t annabanana Feb 2012 #57
Compromising with a bunch of useless Church politicians. Scruffy1 Feb 2012 #37
I think this was made a big deal from the pulpits this past Sunday, gate; elleng Feb 2012 #7
Most Catholics I know would just blow that off. Of course, most Catholics I know don't gateley Feb 2012 #13
I don't believe it. Most Catholics blow off the nutbag priests/bishops on this issue. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #11
We always have. nt gateley Feb 2012 #15
Well, looky here Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #17
Haha! Love it!! nt gateley Feb 2012 #23
this is another media driven right wing attack lark Feb 2012 #20
I've no doubt Faux, et al, are the ones fanning the flames, but NOW I heard gateley Feb 2012 #25
I just read that a majority of Catholics support the contraception rule. Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #29
Well I wonder what brought this about, then. Politics, jeez -- crazy. nt gateley Feb 2012 #34
If there is enough lobbying they'd have too. vaberella Feb 2012 #83
That's only because so many Catholics have left the Church. truedelphi Feb 2012 #125
That is so bloody hypocritical of them - Smilo Feb 2012 #30
I know -- so I wonder who's causing the ruckus? I don't know why we don't automatically cast a gateley Feb 2012 #35
They're not, most of them use it Warpy Feb 2012 #33
Get rid of the Health Bill before it is too late. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #36
Is it better or worse than nothing? quakerboy Feb 2012 #49
Scrap it. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #55
So you believe Obamacare is worse than nothing at all. quakerboy Feb 2012 #71
I am sure. Scrap it. Then Scrap Medicaid and everything else except medicare for every citizen. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #73
That is not an option right now quakerboy Feb 2012 #74
Why not repeal it and expand Medicare? CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #78
Because Republicans quakerboy Feb 2012 #79
The Left? CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #81
All 17 of them? quakerboy Feb 2012 #87
Pandering is never pragmatic Doctor_J Feb 2012 #47
Old Senator Bob Graham of Florida wanted Medicare for all. He was good one. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #77
You should've watched The Young Turks tonight. Lionessa Feb 2012 #50
Where did you hear that? ingac70 Feb 2012 #65
Actuallyyou're right. But there is a vocal minority that ruins our image. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #82
I have an easy solution. onehandle Feb 2012 #3
+ 1universal heath care NOW Vincardog Feb 2012 #4
I was just saying that yesterday. It bears repeating. Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #8
+1 tanyev Feb 2012 #38
Catholic leadership needs to looks at the newest poll as does the Administration maddezmom Feb 2012 #6
Catholic 'leadership' not concerned about polls. elleng Feb 2012 #9
Let they count the number of children in the pews HockeyMom Feb 2012 #14
This is utter bullshit. I'm sick of religious freaks dictating policy. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #12
Kathleen Sebelius: Contraception rule respects religion ProSense Feb 2012 #16
No more, actually, but corporate media is giving the vocal ones, BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #18
Then why is the admin backpedalling? Doctor_J Feb 2012 #48
No 'besides' about it peace frog Feb 2012 #51
They're not. BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #66
Great and honest answer. truedelphi Feb 2012 #126
I'm frankly sick of politicians (of all stripes) ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2012 #19
Agree on that. nt TBF Feb 2012 #32
+1. Exactly. This is compromising women's health. yardwork Feb 2012 #45
How about semi-automatic assault weapons? JJW Feb 2012 #21
Popes have condemned the Iraq war and 'failings' of capitalism DaveJ Feb 2012 #26
I hope they wont. Mass Feb 2012 #22
The Catholic leadership needs to be sent a tax bill. Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #27
I totally agree. BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #67
uhhh...is this caving to the Bible thumpers? SoapBox Feb 2012 #28
I don't understand the problem. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #31
President Obama, there is no need to capitulate on this..... tpsbmam Feb 2012 #39
Exactly, but though he's once again talking big, he's disappointing in his constant caving. Lionessa Feb 2012 #52
"Compromise" on making birthcontrol available is in same category as being "kinda pregnant"... Pachamama Feb 2012 #40
This infuriates me Tumbulu Feb 2012 #41
The only form of birth control they accept alphafemale Feb 2012 #132
Oh for fuck's sake...can we finally move out of the 16th century with this bullshit? Hugabear Feb 2012 #42
Oh by all means, address the concerns of the Catholic priests and bishops! MzNov Feb 2012 #43
Do you know how much people in this country fight for religious freedom? vaberella Feb 2012 #88
This isn't about respecting religion, no matter how much you insist it is. JoeyT Feb 2012 #97
Compromise PlanetBev Feb 2012 #44
Yank the churches tax-exempt status. Make the Catholic Church pay taxes. yardwork Feb 2012 #46
Amen, yardwork. Amen! truedelphi Feb 2012 #76
No fucking compromises. Fearless Feb 2012 #53
I bet the fundies... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #54
No! Do not cave at all on this. If Catholics want to cough up the Billions of $$ AllyCat Feb 2012 #56
But there's the problem... The Doctor. Feb 2012 #119
Well here is what the humbled_opinion Feb 2012 #58
Exactly. But people are willing to shit on religious freedom here. vaberella Feb 2012 #86
yes, we need to be more tolerant of intolerance.. frylock Feb 2012 #96
Then run for President and ban religion. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #116
fail frylock Feb 2012 #121
Ironic, isn't it Le Taz Hot Feb 2012 #89
*FACEPLAM* Odin2005 Feb 2012 #59
i have a problem with a religious state trying to dictate laws in this country... madrchsod Feb 2012 #60
I get unnerved by people who forget we are the US and not France. vaberella Feb 2012 #85
nobody is forcing catholics to use birth control (although 98% admit to using it).. frylock Feb 2012 #105
When my husband and I were going through marriage class AnnieBW Feb 2012 #61
Unless you are shoving the pills down a woman's throat, MsPithy Feb 2012 #62
So paid employees of a religious institution have fewer rights? krispos42 Feb 2012 #63
The headline is the NYTimes. elleng Feb 2012 #64
I live in a heavily Catholic town unionworks Feb 2012 #68
Tax the RCC! Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #69
Love to see it unionworks Feb 2012 #72
Catholic people are NOT the Catholic Church. vaberella Feb 2012 #84
Why belong to a church you have no say over? LAGC Feb 2012 #91
I ain't got a clue. I left the Church at 13. vaberella Feb 2012 #114
we're well aware of that. you're the one conflating the two.. frylock Feb 2012 #106
No. I don't think so. vaberella Feb 2012 #115
ummm i "pushed it onto you" because you're the only one pushing that argument.. frylock Feb 2012 #122
So, will they allow the cults that do not believe in medecine not to offer insurance at all? Or the Mass Feb 2012 #92
That's what I was thinking, too. Women are going to be pissed at the bishops. EFerrari Feb 2012 #93
No they wont get their republicon president, but one that yields to the bishops. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #99
Looks like it. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #100
I know it is 2012 Smilo Feb 2012 #98
in consideration of Catholics, there is one form of contraception the Catholics use MACARD Feb 2012 #101
How about this? No coverage for contraception, JDPriestly Feb 2012 #102
Ugh obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #104
I have a compromise idea Orangepeel Feb 2012 #109
Obama would compromise on the sun coming up in the morning. Vidar Feb 2012 #118
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