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Daniel537

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94. Cute spin.

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 10:17 AM

Apr 2013

First off there's no evidence the election wasn't fair and honest. But even if they weren't, how is it different from "elections" in Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan? And those are some of our best buddies. Point being, we have no right to be micro-managing every country with domestic issues. You want to take up the neo-con mantle, that's your problem.

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US won't accept Venezuela election result, says full recount still needed [View all] azurnoir Apr 2013 OP

Count every vote Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #1

Here we go again. cartach Apr 2013 #44

Fix America first. tblue Apr 2013 #56

This. hifiguy Apr 2013 #117

We just never learn, do we? I am ashamed of my President on this issue. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #150

Agreed. We should count every vote in our elections. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #91

Correct. So they should not have fair and honest elections. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #93

Cute spin. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #94

Since we don't have honest and fair elections Fumesucker Apr 2013 #128

There weren't any problems with the vote. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #120

Aren't you surprised that only 51% of the people wanted Maduro? Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #126

No. I'd heard he was a cruddy campaigner and that his lead was dwindling Ken Burch Apr 2013 #143

are you in Venez now? If not, you do not know what's happening. BTW, Capriles has lots of support wordpix Apr 2013 #148

I heard from a Venezuelan the gov. was burning votes wordpix Apr 2013 #152

Votes are recorded electronically, with paper printed out for backup killbotfactory Apr 2013 #154

What's Spanish for dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #2

So you're in favor of not counting the votes? Where have I heard that before? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #6

The results do not cross the threshold for a recount... Mika Apr 2013 #9

It was achieved by the opposition. mecherosegarden Apr 2013 #55

There's no conditional threshold in Venezuela. joshcryer Apr 2013 #69

They were passed by the election commission dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #14

Yes, I'm surprised Maduro didn't end up with 105% of the vote. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #17

Might be advantageous to all concerned if you lodge your surprise with 140+ international observers LanternWaste Apr 2013 #106

If the elections there are so fair and clean, they shouldn't be opposed to a recount. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #107

The election commission has not observed the formal complaint. joshcryer Apr 2013 #70

What votes weren't counted? -nt Bradical79 Apr 2013 #95

The votes were already counted. The result is legitimate. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #119

One can only imagine where you'd come down had the results been reversed. I can imagine you.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #122

No I wouldn't...considering that the results were counted by the Venezuelan government Ken Burch Apr 2013 #123

I could care less who "governs" Venezuela, but this was really close based on pre-election polling. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #125

There wasn't going to be any way to be "pro-business" and still help the poor Ken Burch Apr 2013 #145

Venez. gov. is bought & owned by the former dictator & his people want to stay in power wordpix Apr 2013 #149

What's Spanish for "projection"? n/t Orsino Apr 2013 #96

Or Spanish for 'Mind Your Own Business'? We've got plenty to do right here. freshwest Apr 2013 #133

OH, BS DiverDave Apr 2013 #3

Ummm, Florida 2000? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #4

The Washington Consensus Doesn't Like The Outcome GETPLANING Apr 2013 #5

And everyone who does "like the outcome" aren't at all prone to conspiracies, right? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #7

I've re-read yours several times, and it makes no sense, at all. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2013 #66

See this interesting contrast in US reaction to a "close" election: Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #18

Thanks for the perspective. PufPuf23 Apr 2013 #25

Most excellent post, Judy. It glaringly highlights the hypocrisy of the State Department. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #28

What the US says or doesn't say is irrelevant. joshcryer Apr 2013 #82

Exactly. The facts really do matter. Coyotl Apr 2013 #77

Weisbrot is wrong about the count. joshcryer Apr 2013 #81

It has been alleged? bitchkitty Apr 2013 #99

By Very Sore Loser & Co (tm). See post #97 for the answers to BS allegations. idwiyo Apr 2013 #102

Yea, I know - I was just trying to get bitchkitty Apr 2013 #115

Capriles. joshcryer Apr 2013 #116

Why the fuck would Venezuela care what we say? Champion Jack Apr 2013 #8

+1 JustAnotherGen Apr 2013 #11

Bingo.... nt Ernesto Apr 2013 #12

Yep! WCGreen Apr 2013 #23

Because we'll infect Maduro with cancer just like we did with Chavez Freddie Stubbs Apr 2013 #34

We'll definitely interfere in their political process. ronnie624 Apr 2013 #67

The hypocrisy is hilarious. nt roody Apr 2013 #10

+oo Vincardog Apr 2013 #32

Damn Solly Mack Apr 2013 #13

If Venezuela isn't careful demwing Apr 2013 #15

Obama disappoints Stewland Apr 2013 #16

And everybody on this board, myself too, voted for him. BadtotheboneBob Apr 2013 #19

Getting a little crowded under the bus, as well as mashed! n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #20

Yeah but it's lively tblue Apr 2013 #57

One can learn to enjoy the view of the exhaust pipe jsr Apr 2013 #74

He's been really bad on Latin America policy. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #92

this just in from the "you've got to be fucking shitting me" desk frylock Apr 2013 #21

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ +1000000000000000 Coyotl Apr 2013 #76

The election was very close, why not do a full recount? n/t OKNancy Apr 2013 #22

Why not let our supreme court decide ? bahrbearian Apr 2013 #45

lol Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #129

Because, obviously, it didn't achieve the threshold required. ronnie624 Apr 2013 #68

What "threshold required"? joshcryer Apr 2013 #71

just like in the US reorg Apr 2013 #24

Everyone knows Chavez's brother was in charge of the deciding state..... go west young man Apr 2013 #26

lol La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #29

Whoops! n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #30

our "adminstration" should do more about vote counting at home and skip venezuela nt msongs Apr 2013 #27

Exactly, because we all know Romney stole the election. Puzzledtraveller Apr 2013 #142

This message has been brought to you by... Mnpaul Apr 2013 #31

He also worked for the little fascist Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #35

yet another reason Carolina Apr 2013 #109

Oh Really? bl968 Apr 2013 #33

Recount SamKnause Apr 2013 #36

The State Department said it was "difficult to understand" november3rd Apr 2013 #37

All the manpower, all the cash, and all we could do is make it close. retread Apr 2013 #38

Karl Rove: Mnpaul Apr 2013 #40

Why didn't Venezuela refuse to accept our election results in 2000 and 2004. olddad56 Apr 2013 #39

Wish Venezuela had demanded a full recount of the Downwinder Apr 2013 #41

I wish our own Senate had demanded a full recount of the Bush/Gore election Mnpaul Apr 2013 #49

Thank you for posting this Carolina Apr 2013 #112

One more thing Carolina Apr 2013 #113

My heart broke in half that day. n/t bitchkitty Apr 2013 #134

Is our president channeling Bush more every day? Doctor_J Apr 2013 #42

The US needs to stop acting like Capitalism = Freedom Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #43

count every vote, what's the problem?? n/t Bacchus4.0 Apr 2013 #46

a hostile foreign government challenging an election? Doctor_J Apr 2013 #62

The US is not "challening an election." joshcryer Apr 2013 #73

Really? Doctor_J Apr 2013 #85

Right, but that's not saying they think the other guy won. joshcryer Apr 2013 #87

Of course they wouldn't like it! Capriles best buddies from CIA will try their best to make it worse idwiyo Apr 2013 #104

um...The State Department doesn't have the best record on these matters Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #47

Humph. He won by over 50% of the vote arikara Apr 2013 #48

I think the US should start at home first adieu Apr 2013 #50

Looks like it isn't just the GOP who is immune to irony. malthaussen Apr 2013 #51

We'd accept the results in a heartbeat if it was a RW fascist dicator who'd gotten elected. Zorra Apr 2013 #52

Seriously? Heh..? Like we have any standing???? Taverner Apr 2013 #53

If only the US ran such great elections Smilo Apr 2013 #54

Yes, keep recounting the votes until the candidate favored by our corporations wins. PSPS Apr 2013 #58

But the coups in Honduras and Paraguay are a-OK. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #59

Venezuela nationalized their oil The Wizard Apr 2013 #60

Ooooooh, the irony! I have to go lay down. n/t bitchkitty Apr 2013 #61

I stand with Obama & Kerry on this one. Recount! Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #63

Kerry demanding a recount roody Apr 2013 #89

This is as Alice-in-Wonderlandish as it gets... Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #64

The 54% audit requires observers. They didn't have observers in 10-15% of stations. joshcryer Apr 2013 #72

looks like you are hallucinating again reorg Apr 2013 #79

It is alleged they were forcefully removed. joshcryer Apr 2013 #80

no, it is NOT alleged reorg Apr 2013 #83

OK, I see where I miscommunicated. joshcryer Apr 2013 #84

excellent post Carolina Apr 2013 #111

Great post - thanks! byeya Apr 2013 #144

What was Obama's opinion on the US election of 2000? nt Incitatus Apr 2013 #65

he didn't Carolina Apr 2013 #110

Well, it's not their country, so there! Coyotl Apr 2013 #75

+1 Daniel537 Apr 2013 #90

Wow. Mr_Jefferson_24 Apr 2013 #78

I wonder how the US would react if say England wouldn't accept our election result? DainBramaged Apr 2013 #86

Oh, the irony! City Lights Apr 2013 #88

Capriles Falsifies Evidence in Order to Claim Fraud in Venezuela’s Elections Catherina Apr 2013 #97

Wish I could rec this. idwiyo Apr 2013 #100

Arrest warrant issued against Capriles. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #101

Wow, I just looked at his twitter feed Catherina Apr 2013 #103

Maybe its just a bus ticket. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #105

It seems counterproductive for the US to weigh in on this... octothorpe Apr 2013 #98

what a hoot Carolina Apr 2013 #108

Even the OAS just broke ranks with the US Catherina Apr 2013 #114

Still intervening in other countries' affairs on behalf of the rich and the corporations. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #118

what a ridiculous joke Enrique Apr 2013 #121

What should be a scandal? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2013 #130

How DARE Venezuelans once again defy the Petroleum-Industrial-Complex! Ken Burch Apr 2013 #124

Maduro to the US: "Don't recognize anything. Your recognition does not matter to us," Catherina Apr 2013 #127

Ooooo, that's gotta smart. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #132

Me too. These last few days my admiration for him has grown by leaps and bounds Catherina Apr 2013 #137

I live in Ecuador Catherina. Puglover Apr 2013 #140

We are coming for you baby. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #131

Is there some indication what these supposed irregularities were fujiyama Apr 2013 #135

Yeah ... their puppet didn't win ... Nihil Apr 2013 #138

National Lawyers Guild urges Obama to recognize new Maduro government Catherina Apr 2013 #136

It is hard to understand how Obama would ignore what the Carter Foundation has stated Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #147

Capriles advisor says he just wanted to cause a scandal. Capriles knew he lost. Audio Catherina Apr 2013 #139

so now I'm wondering how azurnoir Apr 2013 #141

Capriles has not addressed those statements. joshcryer Apr 2013 #146

They are trying to delegitimize Maduro's government killbotfactory Apr 2013 #151

Like Venezuela cares what we think. Rex Apr 2013 #153

Venezuela's Election System Holds Up As A Model For The World Judi Lynn May 2013 #155

Sounds better than ours. ozone_man May 2013 #156