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2ndAmForComputers

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154. Bad comparison. A person breaking into your home may very possibly do you harm.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:32 PM
Feb 2013

This guy was actually only stealing. Very VERY different situations.

Hey, it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with... Aristus Feb 2013 #1
I don't know what else to do but shudder at the thought of this idiot, Divine Discontent Feb 2013 #10
I have to wonder if the value of the stolen merchandise Gore1FL Feb 2013 #31
and the ambulance, investigation, trial, et al grahamhgreen Feb 2013 #35
On the plus side, his aim appears to be better than... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #71
Stay out of stores cartach Feb 2013 #74
theft = death iamthebandfanman Feb 2013 #50
How the hell ya gonna know if the intruder is armed? Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #95
theft=death unless you're a banker, then theft=big bonus. nt valerief Feb 2013 #105
Bad comparison. A person breaking into your home may very possibly do you harm. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #154
*may* n/t iamthebandfanman Mar 2013 #167
He also knocked a woman to the ground Ter Feb 2013 #99
He knocked down a Wal Mart worker marshall Feb 2013 #108
seems not many readers made it to page 2 Paul E Ester Feb 2013 #111
Gee Thanks Paul HangOnKids Feb 2013 #141
You know, I have a personal policy myself Scairp Mar 2013 #163
a crime punishable by death.. frylock Feb 2013 #116
and he should be charged for Assault for that JI7 Feb 2013 #146
Another example Jacoby365 Feb 2013 #2
Except the "bad guy" was unarmed jpak Feb 2013 #97
If Jose's bullets had hit a bystander and killed him/her, would that be manslaughter or murder? nt Selatius Feb 2013 #3
Neither 1983law Feb 2013 #7
a TAD? shooting isn't a TAD much it is the ultimate much! upaloopa Feb 2013 #16
understatement for irony? nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #28
I agree. 1983law Feb 2013 #41
It gets easier Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #124
You win the internets today... 1983law Feb 2013 #133
thank you! I was wondering the same after I posted this. What if someone was right behind that car Divine Discontent Feb 2013 #9
Answer: He wasn't thinking CanonRay Feb 2013 #84
If he had hit the shoplifter, that would be murder. jeff47 Feb 2013 #21
right nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #27
Read page two of the article. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #62
Doesn't matter. jeff47 Feb 2013 #65
This is entirely hypothetical AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #66
Except there's no reporting of a chase by either Buongiorno jeff47 Feb 2013 #67
I think the report is pretty suspect. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #69
using the cop excuse. CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #87
Entirely possible. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #112
imagine that. putting a car in reverse to back out of a parking slot.. frylock Feb 2013 #117
They would have a legal right to do that. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #121
"It's legal to do when you witness a crime in progress." Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #125
Tonnage has right of way, as they say. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #126
my instinct for self preservation far exceeds my will to protect walmart's profit margin frylock Feb 2013 #130
Bullseye. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #134
Well, that's you. Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #156
2nd degree murder. Deep13 Feb 2013 #26
"Intent follows bullet" AnotherWyoDemocrat Feb 2013 #32
How many years did he get? davidpdx Feb 2013 #88
Life AnotherWyoDemocrat Feb 2013 #100
They didn't. Your question is moot. slackmaster Feb 2013 #39
it's like it never happened.. frylock Feb 2013 #131
By your logic, there isn't such a thing as "attempted murder." 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #155
And if the bystander was armed, would s/he have the legal right tblue Feb 2013 #51
In Florida, it's probably 'stand your ground'! sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #96
If the bad guys don't get you, the vigilantes will. bluedigger Feb 2013 #4
Because the vigilantes are just as bad as the bad guys. nt valerief Feb 2013 #106
Utter chaos. Where is the justice system in all of this? Loudly Feb 2013 #5
The 'starve the beast' crowd demands this. They say it openly, no money for cops, just DYI. freshwest Feb 2013 #30
+1 graham4anything Feb 2013 #77
Do these" heros" have the training re: firing a gun in public areas the way police are educated? lunasun Feb 2013 #6
good question. obviously, not all of them do, fortunately, this guys bullets seemed to have not hit Divine Discontent Feb 2013 #13
Ricochet lunasun Feb 2013 #17
Actually, he didn't need to hit a bystander. Hitting the shoplifter would have been plenty jeff47 Feb 2013 #23
If he did, it didn't take. ... Deep13 Feb 2013 #25
I swear there are people walking around just itching to shoot tblue Feb 2013 #52
Seems like it. Deep13 Feb 2013 #57
I saw that they have a simulator open to citizens in NY Mnpaul Feb 2013 #33
Not in Texas? rdharma Feb 2013 #8
In Florida it's mandatory. IveWornAHundredPants Feb 2013 #11
Mandatory in Florida rdharma Feb 2013 #14
No. No place in the USA allows lethal force to defend mere property. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #24
No place in the USA allows lethal force to defend mere property rdharma Feb 2013 #44
All right, apparently I have not learned my lesson... Deep13 Feb 2013 #60
Wrong again. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #70
It's a little confusing. cynzke Feb 2013 #120
Correct. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #122
Do you have 9.41 handy? nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #150
Sure. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #151
That is just so unbelievable! avebury Feb 2013 #81
I don't like what Horn did, but there is an additonal piece of info missing from that account. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #114
They were coming toward him and he shot them in the back... JoeBlowToo Feb 2013 #138
The additional information means squat. avebury Feb 2013 #148
I would not want to live next to him either. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #149
What is really sad is that what Horn learned avebury Feb 2013 #152
Horn Became An Immediate Hero Of The Gun Militancy Movement. Paladin Feb 2013 #135
Did you hear the dispatcher recording? rdharma Feb 2013 #145
"I'm gonna shoot! I'm gonna shoot!" Paladin Feb 2013 #147
K&R DeSwiss Feb 2013 #12
even my ROE in iraq dictated proportionate response pasto76 Feb 2013 #15
good point -proportionate response not lunasun Feb 2013 #19
Sounds like an uncomplicated attempted murder charge, pled down to assualt with a deadly weapon cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #18
And following that felony conviction, never let that guy own a firearm again. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #43
The benefits of concealed carry BainsBane Feb 2013 #20
Kind of a short trip primavera Feb 2013 #54
Remember the good old days, where we just whacked off their hands? Fuddnik Feb 2013 #72
Fleeing. Where was the mortal threat again? nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #22
So much for training. SCVDem Feb 2013 #29
Judge, jury, jesus, police wannabe, executioner, supposedly responsible/law-abiding gun toter. Hoyt Feb 2013 #34
Neighborhood watch! nt SCVDem Feb 2013 #45
The shooter needs to face felony charges Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #36
The old west is over, gun nuts. And your 'golden age' is ending. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #37
Law 8,...there is only one penalty,...death. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #38
If we could confine all the gun idiots in the world to Wal*Marts BlueStreak Feb 2013 #40
Juat another "law-abiding gun owner"....right up the moment he wasn't. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #42
A legally obtained gun doesn't make someone a "good guy." Beartracks Feb 2013 #46
Is there room in this thread 1983law Feb 2013 #47
Vgilantism is so cool SansACause Feb 2013 #53
Did you watch the video? 1983law Feb 2013 #68
Did you read the article? Fumesucker Feb 2013 #76
so arrest the fucker , doesn't walmart have cameras , security etc ? JI7 Feb 2013 #56
Sure,criticize him all you want just don't pretend his actions justify opening fire in a parking lot Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #59
No. Iggo Feb 2013 #107
no, we're all obviously pro-shoplifting.. frylock Feb 2013 #129
Per the article catchnrelease Feb 2013 #48
Good...the shooter is a dangerous idiot who should be taken off the streets before he kills somebody alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #94
Was the shoplifter wearing a hoodie? SansACause Feb 2013 #49
fucking idiot, he should be banned from ever having another gun JI7 Feb 2013 #55
I hope that is possible in Florida...eom Kolesar Feb 2013 #79
He should be imprisoned for life. He's a danger to the community. nt valerief Feb 2013 #103
this guy is a moron bossy22 Feb 2013 #58
Oh, for fuck's sake... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #61
I see no one read page 2 of the article. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #63
So, every time you back out of a parking space, it'a attempted murder? jpak Feb 2013 #98
If one of the people involved in this altercation was standing there AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #113
Yes and alleged shoplifter being chased by strangers backed a car out while escaping them jpak Feb 2013 #140
Some posters never change... AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #142
Translation: "this being on the losing side of an argument really bites." Gotcha. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #160
JPak's tire equivocation between self defense and the 'death penalty' is certainly a winning argumen AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #162
I'm ok with charging the perp.. sendero Mar 2013 #165
Yeah, more details are coming out. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #166
"That's attempted murder." frylock Feb 2013 #132
Yeah, I saw the second article this morning. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #136
The woman the robber knocked down is actually grateful that Martinez shot at the thief Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #64
You never have a reason to shoot at someone unless you're trapped and can't get away... Sancho Feb 2013 #82
Deadly force can be used SCVDem Feb 2013 #91
This place is out of control... Sancho Feb 2013 #73
Martinez told authorities he was trying to mark McKee's car......... Historic NY Feb 2013 #75
oh yeh, i do that all the time. so much easier than memorizing a license plate. frylock Feb 2013 #137
Yup. Most of us would just write the license plate number down riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #161
Regarding the shooting in Largo classykaren Feb 2013 #78
Loss prevention employees? sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #80
Loss Prevention SCVDem Feb 2013 #101
Who knows. . .? another_liberal Feb 2013 #83
Walking home with a soda can get you killed here! Sancho Feb 2013 #92
Good for you! another_liberal Feb 2013 #115
Yes. sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #128
a lot happened in a short time, started with the woman knocked down and loud screams Sunlei Feb 2013 #85
If WalMart doesn't care about preventing shoplifting and harm to customers Blandocyte Feb 2013 #86
I think the off duty police officer had every right to help however he could within reason davidpdx Feb 2013 #89
"Ahm gunna be a HEERO!!" hatrack Feb 2013 #90
Hahaaaahaaaaaa! Yep: that sums it up perfectly. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #159
Another moron with a gun. nt Javaman Feb 2013 #93
But the worst thing in the world is stealing from Wal-Mart. It deserves death, right? valerief Feb 2013 #102
Goodguyswithguns. Iggo Feb 2013 #104
just get the license plate number ThomThom Feb 2013 #109
Why are you protect WalMart? SCVDem Feb 2013 #110
Well I bet Martinez Smilo Feb 2013 #118
The woman who was knocked down said she thought she's been shot - hedgehog Feb 2013 #119
Was anyone in imminent danger of bodily harm? AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #123
When shooting up the back of the car.... cynzke Feb 2013 #127
that would be the fault of the children for placing themselves in proximity.. frylock Feb 2013 #139
Lucky no other customers were in the line of fire. hamsterjill Feb 2013 #143
A gun is like an escalator. sofa king Feb 2013 #144
I didn't know that shoplifting was a death penalty offense Scairp Feb 2013 #153
Who in the hell wants to protect walmart!!?? and-justice-for-all Feb 2013 #157
some gun-toters regard Walmart as American as apple pie and adore it. Divine Discontent Mar 2013 #164
"Investigators said Martinez was charged with two felonies" - Good, I hope they throw the book at apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #158
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