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In reply to the discussion: Joe Biden Discounts Semi-Assault Weapons: ‘Buy A Shotgun’ [View all]sir pball
(4,706 posts)195. Maybe if it's a rifled slug barrel
Those will cause spreads of 18 inches at 5 yards, which would actually be pretty good for home defense except they tend to a "donut" pattern with the shot in a ring.
Me, when I live where I'm allowed to keep firearms, I use a Marlin Camp Carbine with hot .45 loads and a ghost ring. Nine JHPs are enough for any situation I can think of.
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Much as a disagreement should be aimed towards a relevant and stated premise
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#122
Some would take away choices while saying that women should not own firearms for self-defense.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#11
Whether you believe yourself to have superior knowledge as to what is best for home defense,
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#25
I'm sure some purchased semi-auto carbines (AR-15s, AKs, etc.) during the "AWB ban."
Eleanors38
Feb 2013
#76
The police are fighting the same people that you will be fighting if they don't show up
oldbanjo
Feb 2013
#151
A youth model 20 gauge doesn't require a lot of upper body strength and is easier to
yellowcanine
Feb 2013
#46
Of course what you WANT is a round moving around the house at 2500 feet per second.....
cliffordu
Feb 2013
#135
Sorry, innocent children's right to live trumps your right to own a military grade weapon
Taverner
Feb 2013
#14
Very precious salt for the wounds of twenty dead six year school children.
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#127
And the 2nd Amendment gives Congress the power to REGULATE ownership of firearms
Hugabear
Feb 2013
#74
No. Like the rest of the Bill of Rights it limits the power of Congress. Read the preamble.
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#83
So then Congress does NOT have the power to regulate firearm ownership at all?
Hugabear
Feb 2013
#96
Of couse Congress can regulate it, based on the Interstate Commerce clause
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#163
Well, since nobody has got around to defining "assault weapon" in the first place...
derby378
Feb 2013
#38
It's a good thing that criminals NEVER use shotguns to commit multiple homicides
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#192
Some have experienced jamming while using Winchester shells -- even with an otherwise reliable 870.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#30
Biden should realize that if a 12ga coachman was better than a pump, the police would be using them.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#12
Police have lots of weapons that civilians do not need, like AR-15 assault rifles
mwrguy
Feb 2013
#37
In Chicago, cops do not respond to all 911 calls. This includes burglaries, unless a homeowner has
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#119
Well, as said by one of the gun-controllers above, they "have to start somewhere."
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#124
You realize some of your allies-in-gun-control say "no one is gonna take away your arms."
Eleanors38
Feb 2013
#94
If you are like Dianne Feinstein, then you also own a firearm and believe that only the political
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#125
So there you have it: Prohibitionism, even as others say "no one's going to take your guns away."
Eleanors38
Feb 2013
#208
You'd need one HELL of a choke to expand a group more than that poster described.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2013
#88
I have never seen a 2 foot spread at 10 feet even from my wife's un-choked
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2013
#116
I also have a double barrel coach gun with the minimum legal length barrel and no choke.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2013
#132
I don't need the Vice President or anyone else telling me what I need and do not need.
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#29
Since neither of those happen to be regulated items, I will just sit here and laugh at your reply.
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#50
Next, Biden advised our men and women in uniform to trade in their rifles for shotguns
derby378
Feb 2013
#40
Under that reasoning, bring back quill pens and otherwise censor posts on the Internet.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#130
An opinion from the former Senator who pushed for the change in the bankruptcy laws so that
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#189
Civilians shouldn't be able to own anything stronger than the police have in their caches.
judesedit
Feb 2013
#75
The posting and subsequent comments are all well and good, but the ignore the fundamental question..
Veilex
Feb 2013
#93
Who's thunk it? Joe Biden engenders a debate over the best home-defense firearm!
Eleanors38
Feb 2013
#100
You make a very good point. We need to outlaw all semi-automatics. Thanks. nm
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#150
You may be able to dance around the problem but if we can get any of these
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#171
A Mossberg AS-20 Bantam semiauto shotgun is 5.5 lbs and holds 6 shells.
truthisfreedom
Feb 2013
#160
I kind of agree. Because it was Joe Biden, many folks felt "safe" in discussing some...
Eleanors38
Feb 2013
#217