Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
39. I did not say he was lynched. Obviously he was not.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:21 AM
Feb 2013

But the comparison to lynching with respect to THE LACK OF DUE PROCESS is completely valid.

I wasn't there and you weren't there. No one has the full story on everything that went on. We do NOT know whether he was given the opportunity to surrender at the cabin. We DO know that no effort was made to hunker down and wait him out.

As to the legality of what the police did - only a court proceeding (civil or criminal) would be able to make that determination. And one very key witness is now dead. So we will never know the full truth. From the videos and coverage I have seen, the gunfire had been stopped for a very long time before the police moved in to tear the walls down. There was no gunfight anymore. There was an apparent standoff.

And the manner of his death has not yet been determined. Suicide is only one possibility. I doubt you have seen proof of that claim with your own eyes yet.

can't wait heaven05 Feb 2013 #1
I see by your ribbon you've been to the Other Side DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #9
can't wait heaven05 Feb 2013 #12
Well, OK DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #15
great heaven05 Feb 2013 #16
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #36
So you think Dorner's murders are less problematic than someone making snide geek tragedy Feb 2013 #47
Two words for you to remember: DUE PROCESS. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #21
Thank you for your cool head ChazII Feb 2013 #25
He wasn't lynched. He committed suicide during an armed confrontation. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #27
I did not say he was lynched. Obviously he was not. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #39
There is no due process right to shoot at cops and them have the, geek tragedy Feb 2013 #42
you heaven05 Feb 2013 #75
Doesn't matter Scairp Feb 2013 #80
Well, which is it?. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #82
hmmmm heaven05 Feb 2013 #85
Public employees have due process rights as well as those secured through the geek tragedy Feb 2013 #86
??????? heaven05 Feb 2013 #87
You apparently know nothing about the basics of collective bargaining geek tragedy Feb 2013 #88
right heaven05 Feb 2013 #89
I heaven05 Feb 2013 #68
How many KKK-lynching victims were guilty of multiple homicides and were armed geek tragedy Feb 2013 #69
get a grip!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Feb 2013 #72
So, what would you wish on someone who had wiped out your family? DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #29
My family is all dead except for one person. I see no need to kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #44
what someone would do and what the police are required to do 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #55
Thank you. 840high Feb 2013 #43
what would the police have done if it was your brother being killed 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #54
Not the first time law enforcement agencies have burned down occupied buildings. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #2
Is it the first time they lie about having burning it down unintentionally? Gentle-man Feb 2013 #5
maybe the first time that day. olddad56 Feb 2013 #18
+1000 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #56
yes, I remember when those cops sent a tank to bash in the wall** they knew** candles and lamps were Sunlei Feb 2013 #76
I'm against the death penalty, but I stand with the Cops. BlueJazz Feb 2013 #3
+100. nt Skip Intro Feb 2013 #4
You stand with the cops doing something they deny doing? Gentle-man Feb 2013 #6
Yes, it is interesting. BlueJazz Feb 2013 #7
Huh? Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #8
I can be against the death penalty but might kill if tremendous danger is imminent BlueJazz Feb 2013 #10
Killing in self-defense is one thing Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #31
I understand your points and I agree. I'm just not sure that they did not think their.. BlueJazz Feb 2013 #51
He was in the basement when they set it on fire 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #57
I believe there was quite a time lapse in between the last shots I heard polly7 Feb 2013 #60
The problem is Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #83
+10000 heaven05 Feb 2013 #13
so you're against due process. so was dorner. frylock Feb 2013 #37
I don't think the scenario was that simplistic. If we judge what the policemen did at the time... BlueJazz Feb 2013 #52
I think the cops Magleetis Feb 2013 #11
they heaven05 Feb 2013 #14
I tend to not make fun of people who are protecting and defending the community, who at any moment CAG Feb 2013 #17
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #20
Wonder if heaven05 is also laughing about the possibility of the CAG Feb 2013 #23
Probably. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #26
and heaven05 Feb 2013 #78
ohhh heaven05 Feb 2013 #58
You respect cops if they shoot the children of other cops. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #79
oh please!!!!!! heaven05 Feb 2013 #81
Look Dorner's# 1 fan thinks public employees suffering PTSD is funny. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #19
yep heaven05 Feb 2013 #61
You're no different than the Charlie Manson groupies. Or the Holmies. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #62
whatever heaven05 Feb 2013 #64
I'm not the one who's a fan of a filthy murdering piece of evil who got geek tragedy Feb 2013 #65
whatever geek heaven05 Feb 2013 #66
What's so fucking funny? Cha Feb 2013 #30
See this post: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #33
unreal Cha Feb 2013 #40
and YOU heaven05 Feb 2013 #67
No, I just oppose murder and don't have murderering pigs as my hero. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #71
who???? heaven05 Feb 2013 #73
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Feb 2013 #63
Tonight on the radio Politicalboi Feb 2013 #22
LAPD could tell a million lies between now and 2015 about this case, CAG Feb 2013 #24
So you point is one bad deed justifies another? pam4water Feb 2013 #32
Nope. CAG Feb 2013 #34
you did. it's right there for all to see. frylock Feb 2013 #38
I said "it doesn't change the fact", nothing about justification. I can't CAG Feb 2013 #41
...waiting for any more false accusations of things I didn't say... CAG Feb 2013 #46
Ok its been 20 minutes...no more false accusation attempts. I thank you, and good night. CAG Feb 2013 #48
Using tear gas wasn't a bad deed. It succeeded in ending the standoff without injury geek tragedy Feb 2013 #35
yep heaven05 Feb 2013 #70
Haven't followed the story closely, but it's possible. justice1 Feb 2013 #28
They're idiots for purposefully starting the fire AND yelling out that they were doing it. truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #45
. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #49
Why Do "They" ALWAYS Burn the Bldg. & Then Deny It? triplepoint Feb 2013 #50
they denied doing it on purpose 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #53
some police are like a lynch mob, no interest to bring a person to justice or protect the citizens. Sunlei Feb 2013 #59
+10000 heaven05 Feb 2013 #74
Hmm... davidthegnome Feb 2013 #77
That some people have little sympathy for the police is understandable. olegramps Feb 2013 #84
I heard this on the radio. Unless Dorner was about to surrender, it's a defensible option yurbud Feb 2013 #90
If they are denying doing it on purpose, then they must think they did something wrong... octothorpe Feb 2013 #91
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Audio catches cops shouti...»Reply #39