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114. I think there's a bit of oportunistic exaggerating going on
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:56 PM
Jan 2012

by Newt the pontificater.

I bet Newt figures if he doesn't get to be President then he'll be the next Pope.

Why I had to quit going to mass Lifelong Protester Jan 2012 #1
We should do the same thing. pamela Jan 2012 #16
The religious need to take these arguments to their ministers and their church's board of directors saras Jan 2012 #41
Exactly...........but TEF Jan 2012 #56
The Church of Satan Galraedia Jan 2012 #96
Please don't associate the GOP with satanism. boppers Jan 2012 #150
What is a "right-wing" church? AlbertCat Jan 2012 #168
Tax em right out of existence liberalnationalist Feb 2012 #203
2006: Sen Obama’s “Call to Renewal” speech at Sojourners’ Conference in DC Tx4obama Jan 2012 #108
Thanks for the link! pamela Jan 2012 #147
I didn't hear that Sunday - but then my parish is pretty much Vatican II! hedgehog Jan 2012 #2
Don't confuse a bit of good prejudice with inconvenient facts gratuitous Jan 2012 #17
I couldn't agree more! CountAllVotes Jan 2012 #37
So, then, he's not Catholic... brooklynite Jan 2012 #72
wtf? CountAllVotes Jan 2012 #101
98 percent of Catholic women use or have used birth control including abortions Guy Montag Jan 2012 #82
I don't believe abortion is viewed by most women as a form of "birth control". n/t whathehell Jan 2012 #116
How else would you classify it? PassingFair Jan 2012 #119
A "last resort" form of it, maybe whathehell Jan 2012 #157
Four out of ten women who get involved with an accidental pregnancy get abortions. Guy Montag Jan 2012 #176
As has been stated, 98% of Catholic women in America already PRACTICE birth control, whathehell Feb 2012 #190
The poster said "including abortions"... PassingFair Jan 2012 #177
You read it again.. whathehell Feb 2012 #188
I did read it again. PassingFair Feb 2012 #191
Then read this as many times as needed: whathehell Feb 2012 #193
Well at least THAT'S over. PassingFair Feb 2012 #199
I was ready for it to be over awhile ago! whathehell Feb 2012 #204
Couldn"t agree with you more.... Tippy Jan 2012 #174
To me, it doesn't matter if your own particular church/priest is liberal Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #195
How do you know that I give them money? CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #196
Because the leadership of the Catholic Church is malevolent, and imposes itself Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #200
I agree liberalnationalist Feb 2012 #202
How do you know that I give them money? CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #205
I didn't hear any letter read emilyg Jan 2012 #134
This is the first I've heard of it. Brigid Jan 2012 #21
Same here.... TEF Jan 2012 #57
There Is A Separation DallasNE Jan 2012 #55
Religion and common sense are immiscible n/t VWolf Jan 2012 #3
I was told Obama was gonna cave on this, on this very website. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #4
Tax churches. Zoeisright Jan 2012 #5
+++! I bet many of the attendees oppose welfare for po' folk yet have no problem with church welfare alp227 Jan 2012 #14
No I don't think that is so at all. Many catholics support birth control medications. We don't southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #19
Many women take birth control to correct gynecological problems. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #53
Yes that is true also. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #64
Those are called "hormones". boppers Jan 2012 #151
True. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #152
aren't they disallowed from practicing politics? barbtries Jan 2012 #6
Only if it's in the form of not demonizing a Democrat/liberal ... zbdent Jan 2012 #11
Funny stuff! TEF Jan 2012 #86
They didn't say one word about it in our church Gman Jan 2012 #7
If Catholics don't agree with the birth control benefits, then don't use them. bulloney Jan 2012 #8
Tax exempt status? Rambis Jan 2012 #9
If they don't comply, then tax them. thecrow Jan 2012 #24
They are not even close to jeopardizing their tax exempt status hack89 Jan 2012 #51
Last time I was there they passed a special plate for Dan Quayle Rambis Jan 2012 #58
I don't get it. Are they afraid if they provided the coverage.... Bonhomme Richard Jan 2012 #10
So ... they're okay with saying how the government spends their money ... zbdent Jan 2012 #12
religion is all about hypocrisy Skittles Jan 2012 #70
'around the country,' huh? I talked to three Catholics from three churches and none heard it. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #13
This is the 21st Century. Health care should be focused on creating best practices via science. HuckleB Jan 2012 #15
WENT TO MASS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A YEAR YESTERDAY Beer Snob-50 Jan 2012 #18
The solution to these groups problems - TAXATION! liberal N proud Jan 2012 #20
+1,000,000,000,000 HuckleB Jan 2012 #23
Taxing churches would be a good start..... Magoo48 Jan 2012 #26
They already are taxed if they try to play in politics cstanleytech Jan 2012 #29
hen 501c3's lose their tax exempt status, they end up paying property taxes. Critters2 Jan 2012 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Jan 2012 #155
Note: Never post on a forum when you wake up without first drinking a cup of coffee or two !!!! cstanleytech Jan 2012 #185
Curiosity officially piqued! Critters2 Feb 2012 #187
LOL cstanleytech Feb 2012 #189
Unrec. - broadbrush. emilyg Jan 2012 #135
One of the reasons why I stopped attending church richmwill Jan 2012 #22
I'm Catholic EC Jan 2012 #25
When religion collides with public health policy... ehrnst Jan 2012 #27
The church apparently considers WAR CRIMES to be less offensive. /nt iamtechus Jan 2012 #28
Well....considering alot of said war crimes were either commited in the name of a religion and or by cstanleytech Jan 2012 #31
Not "the church." The hierarchy. pnwmom Jan 2012 #111
Okay atreides1 Jan 2012 #115
The arrogance of the Bishops Heathen57 Jan 2012 #30
Remove their tax-exempt status NOW Hugabear Jan 2012 #32
They only have to be neutral concerning endorsements of specific candidates. ehrnst Jan 2012 #34
According to the OP, they are opposing President Obama. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #71
They are opposing an action of the Obama administration ehrnst Jan 2012 #113
But if they talk about those issues & specific legislation in an extremely selective way, how are we patrice Jan 2012 #102
There is a difference between political and supporting a candidate ehrnst Jan 2012 #112
This crosses the line. They spoke against a candidate for elective office. Critters2 Jan 2012 #140
They said nothing about voting - only to petition against the legislation. ehrnst Jan 2012 #163
+1 onenote Jan 2012 #179
Then, I'm sure that all Catholics will decline the coverage for birth control. The law sinkingfeeling Jan 2012 #33
I was just reading the head of hhs's memo on the rules Beer Snob-50 Jan 2012 #35
Hey Catholics Politicalboi Jan 2012 #36
I find it disheartening that every time the Catholic church is mentioned in a post Beer Snob-50 Jan 2012 #39
Why distract from the actual issue with a red herring like that? HuckleB Jan 2012 #40
because ... CountAllVotes Jan 2012 #43
You make me laugh _ed_ Jan 2012 #156
My religion is not your concern CountAllVotes Jan 2012 #175
Well, I'll sleep well tonight _ed_ Feb 2012 #192
Quit talking about people you do not know CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #194
Nonsense _ed_ Feb 2012 #197
You know nothing about me CountAllVotes Feb 2012 #198
Hate. Others hope for HONEST reform and, ergo, the universal blessing of LIFE-giving freedom. nt patrice Jan 2012 #75
A lot of people don't know that a commission appointed by the Vatican had libinnyandia Jan 2012 #38
I hadn't heard that naaman fletcher Jan 2012 #133
Google pontifical commission on birth control libinnyandia Jan 2012 #165
thanks naaman fletcher Jan 2012 #166
Talk about turning the truth on its head! silverweb Jan 2012 #42
They don't understand what rights are: If you have right x, then I have it too; if I don't have patrice Jan 2012 #46
They understand it just fine. silverweb Jan 2012 #48
PRIVATE standards being FORCED upon the use of PUBLIC dollars! The use of birth-control is a CHOICE. patrice Jan 2012 #44
Bull! They are asking freedom to discriminate against taxpayers who don't adhere to their beliefs. freshwest Jan 2012 #45
Not here davidthegnome Jan 2012 #47
Not True TEF Jan 2012 #49
"Nice try DU"? IDemo Jan 2012 #54
No..... TEF Jan 2012 #65
Don't put words in my mouth IDemo Jan 2012 #117
This was reported on our local news, from Chicago, too. nt Critters2 Jan 2012 #142
Confirming ....Same place I first heard it too lunasun Jan 2012 #145
My experience is that it rarely comes from clergy, but often comes from lay leaders representing patrice Jan 2012 #66
That sucks.... TEF Jan 2012 #74
I phone-bank in most election years; people say all sorts of things, especially when they are patrice Jan 2012 #76
Also > Regarding lay Catholic political activism: patrice Jan 2012 #77
Also also: patrice Jan 2012 #79
. HuckleB Jan 2012 #130
Do you really attend Mass? HuckleB Jan 2012 #88
Yes. TEF Jan 2012 #95
I'm not buying what you're selling. HuckleB Jan 2012 #97
The word you want is "hear" mrs_p Jan 2012 #129
seriously? onenote Jan 2012 #180
And how is your post any different from the post you responded too? HuckleB Jan 2012 #183
Well, let's see onenote Jan 2012 #184
Actually, no. mrs_p Feb 2012 #201
tax exempt? evilhime Jan 2012 #50
I'd bet none of them authentically represent the other side of the issue, so it doesn't qualify as patrice Jan 2012 #69
Really...? TEF Jan 2012 #52
The story is from CBS News. You claim it is not true yet you offer no proof. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #59
The story is from Business Insider Renew Deal Jan 2012 #61
I still don't see any refutation of the reported facts... Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #62
Reported "Facts"....? TEF Jan 2012 #68
"Catholics across the country were read...."p jberryhill Jan 2012 #141
the church i was at this past sunday did read the letter Beer Snob-50 Jan 2012 #60
I never..... TEF Jan 2012 #80
Unfortunately, the widespread press on this issue indicates otherwise. HuckleB Jan 2012 #132
You have no basis for refutation jberryhill Jan 2012 #143
It would be best for you not to make guesses. You're not very good at it. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #63
How so..? TEF Jan 2012 #84
See Post 18... HuckleB Jan 2012 #67
What..? TEF Jan 2012 #83
In other words, you didn't read any of the links. HuckleB Jan 2012 #85
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #91
Hmm. HuckleB Jan 2012 #93
Joined today, only posted in this thread, and ended up repeating a RW meme muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #105
+1 HuckleB Jan 2012 #121
The priest at our church read the letter. WIProgressive88 Jan 2012 #144
most catholics use birth control. DesertFlower Jan 2012 #73
Most of the Catholics I know who are/were on birth control don't/didn't bother to refuse communion. HuckleB Jan 2012 #87
i'm 70 years old. i used birth control and DesertFlower Jan 2012 #100
Oh, I get it. HuckleB Jan 2012 #120
What....?! TEF Jan 2012 #89
Are you joking? HuckleB Jan 2012 #94
i don't have statistics, but DesertFlower Jan 2012 #98
I quit going to church ellie Jan 2012 #78
AND sold it's soul for a chance to name a SCOTUS justice the price of which was WAR on innocent patrice Jan 2012 #81
Time to forget that tax-exempt status. Vinca Jan 2012 #90
Singled out TEF Jan 2012 #92
Except that the evidence that it did happen all across the country is clear. HuckleB Jan 2012 #99
Seems like your disagreement has to do with the meaning of 'around the country' Demit Jan 2012 #160
ESPECIALLY!!! since they are seeking CONTROL of TAX SUPPORTED services. nt patrice Jan 2012 #104
why didn't newt and callista have children? DesertFlower Jan 2012 #103
Wasn't Newt's face and physique enough? zbdent Jan 2012 #169
Yet the Church can keep you alive even when your Directive says not to. glinda Jan 2012 #106
Yeah I dont care what their hospitals offer becuz I try to stay very far away lunasun Jan 2012 #146
Here's an example of the letter. I don't agree with it, but I also don't have a problem with it onenote Jan 2012 #107
This is the main reason I quit the Catholic Church. TxVietVet Jan 2012 #109
The church is wrong LuckyTheDog Jan 2012 #110
I think there's a bit of oportunistic exaggerating going on eyewall Jan 2012 #114
Every single church that read that to their congregation Thumper79 Jan 2012 #118
In this case they arern't breaking the rules eyewall Jan 2012 #122
You wouldn't, I hope, say the same thing onenote Jan 2012 #137
Tax the Churches. Tax the Corporations owned by the Churches - F. Zappa Flagrante Jan 2012 #123
The problem with religion Pakid Jan 2012 #124
All of the world's problems are caused by Religion.... lib2DaBone Jan 2012 #125
As an ardent secularist, I still would not say that ALL of the world's problems are caused by any LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #154
Nonsense. n/t Johnson20 Jan 2012 #162
Sounds like time for them to pay taxes. n/t datadiva Jan 2012 #126
Tax them! They want to lobby their members, fine, but take their tax-exempt status away! Doremus Jan 2012 #127
Can you get a copy of that letter? sarcasmo Jan 2012 #159
Yes I can. Doremus Jan 2012 #181
Cool, it would be nice to get this out on the web, Thanks. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #182
Here it is. Doremus Feb 2012 #186
Dear Catholic ecclesiastical authorities: Deep13 Jan 2012 #128
At least in some areas of the country I think this kind of dogmatic BS from the Catholic church jimlup Jan 2012 #131
I quit going to mass in 2004 because of shit like this K8-EEE Jan 2012 #136
What percentage of American Catholics do you think would disapprove of birth control? JDPriestly Jan 2012 #138
I was at Mass yesterday and heard nothing about this. Harry Monroe Jan 2012 #148
Are Catholics less fertile these days? colddayinhell Jan 2012 #149
That is disgusting... LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #153
Tax exempt status should have been taken away years ago. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #158
For the same reason that UU churches and African American Churches and progressive churches onenote Jan 2012 #170
I heard that... GTurck Jan 2012 #161
an 8th gr. student mentioned this letter to me wordpix Jan 2012 #164
An acceptable method of Catholic birth control Zambero Jan 2012 #167
THe IRS needs to start taxing these bastards. ALL political churches. catbyte Jan 2012 #171
Including Unitarian Universalist? Including African American churches onenote Jan 2012 #178
That should lose them their tax exempt status. jwirr Jan 2012 #172
Time to start taxing churches. Jankyn Jan 2012 #173
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