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JDPriestly

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49. Lincoln's enemies were pretty much defined by geography.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:57 AM
Feb 2013

Everyone knew very clearly what the issues were. Mistakes were probably made, but it was possible to know what side you were on.

For much of the world, it is impossible to know whether they are classed with dronable or non-dronable souls. The attacks in Pakistan come by surprise and have killed quite a number of children. We are assured that the drones are surgical attacks, but they have killed a lot of children. So what are we to think?

So, if there was a secret memo prehand, to drone Hitler 2 weeks before graham4anything Feb 2013 #1
"who is NOT an American anyhow" tama Feb 2013 #4
Exactly my point I have been saying all along. Some just choose to ignore it. graham4anything Feb 2013 #5
You said tama Feb 2013 #7
JA is Justin Bieber. A publicity loving celebrity, however, Justin has a better voice. graham4anything Feb 2013 #8
"how the hell can one run a war" reorg Feb 2013 #11
Are the bad people in the world just going away. If so, how? graham4anything Feb 2013 #13
you DO believe in fairy tales reorg Feb 2013 #15
OBL wasn't a bad person? Hitler wasn't a bad person? graham4anything Feb 2013 #17
graham, besides your convoluted reasoning to kill others (with drones) dotymed Feb 2013 #20
no, that is not a constant that is proven true. It puts a ring around it, so to say. graham4anything Feb 2013 #22
you mentioned Hitler but forgot HE used drones on ENGLAND KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #78
When nineteen50 Feb 2013 #50
Hasn't it been that way from day one of the world? One needs to look at big picture graham4anything Feb 2013 #84
you might want to watch the extended HBO interview reorg Feb 2013 #10
I do not get HBO, and that is run by a big corporation you know. graham4anything Feb 2013 #12
link is in the OP, video is on the web and it's free reorg Feb 2013 #14
+1! snot Feb 2013 #32
I don't think these memos contain the when and who of the attacks. Ash_F Feb 2013 #24
First, 4anything, let's get the history straight. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #29
We declared war on Al Qaeda, too. The AUMF of 9/18/2001 was a msanthrope Feb 2013 #44
Here is the problem. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #45
Actually, we can kill Al Qaeda sympathiers when they are non-custodial enemy combatants. See, msanthrope Feb 2013 #51
If our government is targetting people on that list, why doesn't it simply say so. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #70
Yes. Awlaki was on that list. He did not challenge his designation on that msanthrope Feb 2013 #72
Have you watched or read these statements on the issue? JDPriestly Feb 2013 #87
Actually, I think you misstate the rule of law. msanthrope Feb 2013 #90
Two comments on Judge Bates' opinion. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #85
On your first point, there is no right of habeas for a non-custodial enemy combatant. msanthrope Feb 2013 #86
The potential crimes described are horrific. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #89
The 'actual' crimes are horrific. Placing a PETN bomb in a box is a crime, even if it didn't get msanthrope Feb 2013 #93
I read Hamdi a long time ago, but I think that this is a circular argument: JDPriestly Feb 2013 #91
Mr. Awlaki had the right to disprove his classification. He chose to not do so. msanthrope Feb 2013 #92
Just think of all the people who could have been droned down through the ages daleo Feb 2013 #67
What the hell is wrong with you? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #76
So, if there was a secret memo prehand, to drone graham4anything 2 weeks before The Stranger Feb 2013 #82
I hope het gets something. Would love to see those docs. Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #2
+1. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #16
so, he wants someone to leak, and possibly get caught OKNancy Feb 2013 #3
He will not "go on his merry way." Chef Eric Feb 2013 #9
Actually, Assange is imprisoned in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #30
I am well aware of that OKNancy Feb 2013 #36
You could be right for all I know. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #40
What's your opinion OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #48
this tread is about Assange OKNancy Feb 2013 #52
Excusing torture and assassination is irrational. OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author OKNancy Feb 2013 #66
He's not imprisoned in the Embassy: he's hiding there from the law struggle4progress Feb 2013 #46
Same difference. Depends on your point of view. He probably feels imprisoned. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #71
Excellent point. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #79
another point on leaks graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
Valerie Plame's outing by Dick Cheney . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #19
This is not an all or nothing, right, wrong matter. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #34
freedom is misused. As Kristofferson wrote"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose" graham4anything Feb 2013 #41
I beg to differ. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #47
How many sleeping women and children did Valerie Plame kill? Ash_F Feb 2013 #75
Julian Assange is Robin Hood . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #18
No, he is the Wizard of Oz and the curtain reveals he is not what he said graham4anything Feb 2013 #23
So then I take it that you condone the Presidents new authority NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #25
He has the same authority Lincoln had. But then, Lincoln had haters too. graham4anything Feb 2013 #31
Lincoln's enemies were pretty much defined by geography. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #49
Apples and oranges. another_liberal Feb 2013 #60
Julian Assange has always maintained that he does not steal secrets. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #35
I stand corrected. another_liberal Feb 2013 #59
Assange is a member of the press. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #69
Good point . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #74
I wasn't aware Robin Hood had ever been sought for questioning on a rape charge. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #53
Only because . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #56
Right. The CIA. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #58
The two young women . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #61
Really? ripcord Feb 2013 #21
It is more telling that you think he is not. nt NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #26
He brought you out of your long silence RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #27
He will ALWAYS think he's relevant. More's the pity. randome Feb 2013 #33
He is sitting in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #38
Thanks for posting... ReRe Feb 2013 #28
I'm with you. I respect and understand the reasonable need for a certain amount of JDPriestly Feb 2013 #39
Democracy? ReRe Feb 2013 #42
I enjoy your posts OKNancy Feb 2013 #54
My advice: do not bother replying to those who obsess about Assange's motives or character – snot Feb 2013 #37
Hear! Hear! ReRe Feb 2013 #43
+1 NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #55
Free Julian Assange! another_liberal Feb 2013 #62
Mr Assange is not in custody but lives in Quito's embassy at 3 Hans Crescent, London, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #64
He is not . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #73
He was happy to spend a year and half in the English countryside, while his case ambled struggle4progress Feb 2013 #88
Julian Assange is a hero . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #94
Assange's claims, once again, exhibit careless disregard for facts: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #63
Nobody cares if Assange is dealing in facts are not. Cha Feb 2013 #68
Yes, sometimes it appears to me they don't like 'gobermint' bureaucrats having a job and doing it Amonester Feb 2013 #83
Rec'd but one question. What rules? Catherina Feb 2013 #65
Obama: "Transparency and the rule of law with be the touchstones of this presidency." Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #77
is there some kind of a 'point system' ... quadrature Feb 2013 #80
Given how many governmental agencies treat Occupiers as terrorists, snot Feb 2013 #81
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