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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
33. The China boogeyman is rather tiresome.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:51 AM
Jan 2013

First, the vast majority of US debt is owed to ourselves. You don't have to be another country to loan the US government money.

China bought up some debt as part of a currency manipulation scheme - make the Dollar worth more against the Yuan - in order to remain 'cheap' to US business. But that's like using a bucket to make water not run downhill - you can only move so much water before the flow is too great to overcome. So they stopped buying much in 2006. And the total amount they owe is a small fraction of our outstanding debt.

What did China buy? Standard US treasuries. Was there any sort of special deal/secured loan/other bullshit? Nope. What happens if they demand we pay it back now? Nothing. They pay out on a fixed schedule. If China wants to cash them in early, China can sell them to someone else. The treasury won't pay early.

But hey, good job catapulting the propaganda! "We're in hock to China" works great when cutting social services. Be sure to keep talking about it.

If Lyin' Ryan's mouth had three or more sides Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #1
That nit wit thinks he could have won the WH if he had gotten the nod. marble falls Jan 2013 #2
Or he thinks he can next time with electoral college gerrymandering. n/t factsarenotfair Jan 2013 #5
I don't think he can be made palatable to most folks. He looks like a portrait of Romney's soul.... marble falls Jan 2013 #10
He Doesn't Have to be Palatable to Most Folks, Only the RAPEuglican Base AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #28
That's a pretty small niche voting crowd. Going for it is what lost Mittski the election. marble falls Jan 2013 #29
Mittski Would Have Won with the Gerrymandering They Have in the Works AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #32
Paul Ryan ... irrelevant to the human condition N/T broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #3
the sequestration sounds like the new fiscal cliff n/t Enrique Jan 2013 #4
The Department of Defense is already down for it. PuffedMica Jan 2013 #6
The Democratic Senate passed a $600+ billion military funding bill in December. woo me with science Jan 2013 #21
The Republicans will be the Military's worst nightmare lovuian Jan 2013 #7
Even the Repukes know there's a lot of fat in the military budget customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #26
See? Repubs want to gut the military. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #8
Sounds like he wants to tank the stock market. randome Jan 2013 #9
GOP wants it to happen so they can blame Obama Joey Liberal Jan 2013 #11
They would throw "thou" or their mommas under the bus! malibea Jan 2013 #16
They made the bills and deficit. Now they don't want to pay China back. When China decides is wants judesedit Jan 2013 #12
+960 Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #15
The China boogeyman is rather tiresome. jeff47 Jan 2013 #33
Paul Ryan? StarryNite Jan 2013 #13
I agree with you- but he won't let us forget his dog faced ass! malibea Jan 2013 #18
Lyan Ryan reminds me of what one would find at the bottom of a cesspool Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #14
Ryan: No Sequestration If Romney And I Had Won AlbertCat Jan 2013 #17
And if he had (God forbid!) he would say something different! malibea Jan 2013 #19
I think the sequester -- if allowed to happen -- will seriously hurt the economy Zorro Jan 2013 #20
Because the Republican alternative is far worse muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #22
Correct URL for the first excerpted article here: muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #23
Its amazing how flippant some people are about this sequester mess. DCBob Jan 2013 #24
I agree Zorro Jan 2013 #25
Yes, all sectors will be impacted.. including investors and big business. DCBob Jan 2013 #27
Remember they caused us to have downgraded credit in 2011 with their debt ceiling bullshit. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #30
And yet people keep voting for them! What's up with that? malibea Jan 2013 #36
In other words, they're admitting that they'd have cut all spending for human needs down to nothing Ken Burch Jan 2013 #31
It is worth it to get those military cuts nikto Jan 2013 #34
Not that way. The Pentagon budget needs to be cut, but it should be TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #37
Oh good! I love when the bloviating Idiocrat talks publicly lunatica Jan 2013 #35
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