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31. Another possible OP title: "Democrats give voters the middle finger"

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:39 PM

Jan 2013

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/30/filibuster-reform-poll_n_2218963.html

A majority of Americans are in favor of requiring senators who wish to filibuster a bill to actually stand up on the Senate floor and talk, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll.

The survey finds that 65 percent of Americans believe senators should have to "participate in debate for the entire filibuster," a proposal that has gained ground in recent weeks as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and President Barack Obama have thrown their support behind reform efforts. Only 9 percent of those polled said that senators should be able to filibuster without being physically present, and another 26 percent said they were unsure.

Apparently a "majority of Americans" equates to squat.

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Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell Reach Filibuster Reform Deal [View all] kpete Jan 2013 OP

Reid needs to go. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #1

I said that right after the election to anyone that would listen. Damn few would. Pelosi isn't Purveyor Jan 2013 #10

I disagree. Nancy presided over the most productive House in U.S. history. What she got passed was Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #65

No shit. If you look up milquetoast in a dictionary, his picture is there. harmonicon Jan 2013 #48

Reid needs to be replaced. NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #50

you have any idea how hard it is to negotiate with a turtle? snooper2 Jan 2013 #91

but leaves a fundamental feature, the silent filibuster, in place Botany Jan 2013 #2

Silent Filibuster Ian Iam Jan 2013 #9

Watch how quick McConnell and company use the silent filibuster to block .. Botany Jan 2013 #15

And Feinstein was listed as one of the seven not on board with talking fillibuster... cascadiance Jan 2013 #22

Feinstein is notorious for proposing bills that sound Liberal...but, then go down. KoKo Jan 2013 #54

Hear, hear! Merkley for Senate Majority Leader. Bette Noir Jan 2013 #73

Like it had any chance of passing to begin with. Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #30

Senate Dems will be blocking Sen. Feinstein's assault rifle ban. hack89 Jan 2013 #45

I'm shocked...shocked I tell you that Harry folded like a Dollar General lawnchair. Suckers!!! eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #3

"Progressive senators working to dramatically alter Senate rules were defeated on Thursday" PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #4

No, just "Democrats." Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #6

Old Plonkers Ian Iam Jan 2013 #5

Silver Lining BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #7

The GOP Ain't Gonna Win The Senate november3rd Jan 2013 #12

Why does the GOP have 30 governors then? former9thward Jan 2013 #18

Name the John2 Jan 2013 #51

There are 20 Democrats and 12 Republicans up for re-election. former9thward Jan 2013 #53

They will eventually because... BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #21

I wish there was a Santa Claus too Plucketeer Jan 2013 #13

I am fine with having a "standing" filibuster BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #23

If they get the Senate they will do what Harry didn't Dragonfli Jan 2013 #20

Yep, Reid just wants the ILLUSION that he wants real reform to have the Senate WORK again! cascadiance Jan 2013 #28

absolutely grasswire Jan 2013 #56

What do you base that on? They didn't change the rules when they had the majority. 24601 Jan 2013 #74

They threatened to get rid of it completely until we folded like a lawn chair. Dragonfli Jan 2013 #80

Reid made the same threat - just words. It's unlikely that a majority of the Senators would give 24601 Jan 2013 #87

You don't appear to understand Republicans at all Dragonfli Jan 2013 #89

They also thought screwing with the electoral college was a bad idea. jeff47 Jan 2013 #86

What's to say creeksneakers2 Jan 2013 #66

Yep, claiming it's an effort to be "bipartisan" is just a damn excuse! cascadiance Jan 2013 #67

I'm happy you recovered from that 2-year-long coma. jeff47 Jan 2013 #77

weak sauce n/t n2doc Jan 2013 #8

Rec'd so that more people will see it. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #11

Better to blame the six democrats that wouldn't support Still Sensible Jan 2013 #14

Note that the article indicates that Reid was apparently upset the names of the 6 were released. PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #17

Huffington Post article had already "leaked" these names, though some of them don't match up... cascadiance Jan 2013 #29

Hot air Harry. russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #16

He didn't really have the votes. It was a bluff The Second Stone Jan 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Matariki Jan 2013 #24

Isn't our party's acting spectacular? I wonder what progressive measures woo me with science Jan 2013 #25

Salon article from '09 lays it out. Nothing has changed since then.. KoKo Jan 2013 #58

So the Dems basically would not vote Third Doctor Jan 2013 #26

Fuck them. Acting like fucking losers. GodlessBiker Jan 2013 #27

Another possible OP title: "Democrats give voters the middle finger" NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #31

It Leaves All Of The Odorous Pieces In Place DallasNE Jan 2013 #32

BUT they can say "Filibuster reform passed!!! VICTORY" NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #34

It's the only way Democrats can make "lists of accomplishments" HATER!! Dragonfli Jan 2013 #38

It's official, THE DEMOCRATS THAT PRETEND TO SUPPORT US WANT OBSTRUCTION TOO Dragonfli Jan 2013 #33

I understand your frustration and I share it. But the part of your comment that I take exception totodeinhere Jan 2013 #39

You know, I hear that over-and-over-and-over again, an yet NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #42

Wow, you type faster and far more succinctly than I, but I tried to say much the same! Dragonfli Jan 2013 #49

I don't disagree that the party has moved to the right. totodeinhere Jan 2013 #70

That is the line, but when they let the GOP in the tents "large back door" Dragonfli Jan 2013 #47

I have enough knowledge of party history to know that while there were strong progressive elements totodeinhere Jan 2013 #69

I have learned you take away little of what that history teaches Dragonfli Jan 2013 #72

It certainly would be ironic to see a real Democrat NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #40

That's what I've been saying. Third Doctor Jan 2013 #92

This sets the stage for another do nothing Congress. old guy Jan 2013 #35

Plausible deniability. Plausible deniability. demjellyfish Jan 2013 #36

What does the White House think of this crap? Dustlawyer Jan 2013 #37

Can someone explain in simple terms what the new rules are other than Politicub Jan 2013 #41

Still need 60 votes jeff47 Jan 2013 #79

I don't get why the dems decided to go in this direction Politicub Jan 2013 #83

AFAICT, they're operating under the belief that Republicans won't take away the filibuster jeff47 Jan 2013 #85

I could just easily scream BOOOOOOOO!!!! but would rather recommend taking action alp227 Jan 2013 #43

Huh? RickFromMN Jan 2013 #44

Hot air, or more precisely scripted drama. Dragonfli Jan 2013 #55

WTF??? Omaha Steve Jan 2013 #46

If the Democrats in the Senate were in the minority this wouldn't be so bad lunatica Jan 2013 #52

One opportunity, have you been in a cave the last 4 years? they did it nearly EVERY Dragonfli Jan 2013 #60

Haha. Very funny comment. xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #61

If Dems were a minority, I'd PREFER a talking filibuster, as Bernie Sanders HAS and WOULD!!! cascadiance Jan 2013 #63

Not Good Enough supercats Jan 2013 #57

So nothing substantive changes? Fearless Jan 2013 #59

Enjoy yourself Harry tartan2 Jan 2013 #62

I wonder what would have happened if Sharon Angle had beaten him earlier... cascadiance Jan 2013 #64

Schumer's the one working his butt off to take over majority leader jeff47 Jan 2013 #88

The silent fillibuster was the one thing I really wanted changed abelenkpe Jan 2013 #68

weak sauce.... mike_c Jan 2013 #71

After thinking about this more, the Democrats will likely be in the minority in 2014. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #75

I have mistaken pity for love libodem Jan 2013 #76

hahahahaha... true believing suckers fascisthunter Jan 2013 #78

These so called Democrat Senators JEB Jan 2013 #81

if having integrity were easy, everybody would have it. appacom Jan 2013 #82

They blinked time & time & time again. How long hs it been since the Senate passed a budget? 24601 Jan 2013 #84

as if it weren't planned this way fascisthunter Jan 2013 #90