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51. Where are you getting your information?

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 01:03 AM

Jan 2013

The vast majority of sales at gunshows are donexby dealers with FFLs. They do backgroubd checks. This guy is not going to buy guns from a dealer that has to do a background check. If a law is passed saying all gun sales need a background check, do you really think this guy will buy from someone who insists on following the law and submitting his name and information for a background check.

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Feds Investigating Felonious Gun Nut [View all] Galraedia Jan 2013 OP

I suspect most gun nutters are perfectly ok with this guy having that arsenal. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #1

not so donnasgirl Jan 2013 #9

Better regulation would help to keep guns out of the black market. n/t pnwmom Jan 2013 #10

OK donnasgirl Jan 2013 #11

By regulating the transfer, at every point on the distribution chain, pnwmom Jan 2013 #13

To say nothing of the fact that a gun black market would have significant logistical difficulties. Aristus Jan 2013 #67

A good start would be regulating the manufacture of any and all guns. RC Jan 2013 #47

So the government decides how many guns will be made every year? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #86

And what kind? RC Jan 2013 #88

And when a republican is President he gets to decide how many and what kind? hack89 Jan 2013 #89

So we should not do anything? RC Jan 2013 #90

That is a childish argument hack89 Jan 2013 #93

Yeah RantinRavin Jan 2013 #12

It's easier to produce drugs at home and sell them than it is to produce guns. n/t pnwmom Jan 2013 #14

Who needs to produce RantinRavin Jan 2013 #15

The guns won't do much without ammo, which will run out sooner pnwmom Jan 2013 #44

I have to say, I still smile when I think of Chris Rock's solution... primavera Jan 2013 #54

He must have done something krhines Jan 2013 #117

Reloading mr.ed Jan 2013 #74

Wonder how long it would take paleotn Jan 2013 #80

$50,000 for a pound of powder. Simple. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2013 #83

It is easy to make ammo. One would have to regulate those items too. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #94

I am donnasgirl Jan 2013 #18

So, your name is donnagirl... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #42

If tour that nosey donnasgirl Jan 2013 #103

a girl who fought for us in Vietnam at age 17? Jeeze, get a better story, LOL. bettyellen Jan 2013 #55

I was in Sang Bang Dang Gong... Kolesar Jan 2013 #82

Your ignorance donnasgirl Jan 2013 #104

I don't know where that came from Mr. Catagory eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #105

No one here hates vets... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #108

OTOH, it has done a great job at keeping autos and trucks identified. mbperrin Jan 2013 #19

Well said. AllyCat Jan 2013 #63

Actually, they have jeff47 Jan 2013 #106

We have laws donnasgirl Jan 2013 #16

So any law that's not 100% effective should be dumped? mbperrin Jan 2013 #20

It's not donnasgirl Jan 2013 #22

No problem with owning a gun. I just think it ought to be watched at least as closely mbperrin Jan 2013 #24

mbperrin donnasgirl Jan 2013 #27

And no one was ever injured by an antibiotic that I heard of. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #32

Vietnam had nothing to do with preserving America's freedoms. That is rhetoric. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #25

When we were kids donnasgirl Jan 2013 #28

When you were a child, you thought as a child. Proletariatprincess Jan 2013 #61

Why wouldn't you use your rights to ask Why you are going to war ? JI7 Jan 2013 #69

Bravo Comrade! Proletariatprincess Jan 2013 #62

All that matters is that she was fighting for this Country, oldbanjo Jan 2013 #78

What did the Vietnam war have to do with "my rights"? xtraxritical Jan 2013 #41

Ho Chí Minh was gonna take away your guns, cancel "Gilligan's Island", and make you wear... Tom Ripley Jan 2013 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Jan 2013 #72

Thanks Tom, I needed that ! xtraxritical Jan 2013 #85

Your right, where I live the same people are arrested for stealing oldbanjo Jan 2013 #77

So we should just get rid of laws that people break, and not pass any more? truebluegreen Jan 2013 #79

You, by definition, are NOT a gun nutter, my dear. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #29

By all accounts I'd say you aren't a gun nut madokie Jan 2013 #73

Your right, taking the guns from the good guys will oldbanjo Jan 2013 #75

I don't concider myself a "gun nut" Prog_gun_owner Jan 2013 #64

That is ludicrous and offensive as hell Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #81

Sends chills down your spine shenmue Jan 2013 #2

We have no way . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #7

He was probably a straw purchaser re-selling them too. BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #3

find out where he got them Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #4

How do we enforce them when the NRA made sure there was no ATF head, no info sharing, no research? SunSeeker Jan 2013 #17

I have no issues with the executive orders Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #30

Then why do you suggest that new laws would not have stopped this? SunSeeker Jan 2013 #34

maybe if we enforced esisting laws Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #102

Why did the State of Ohio grant a felon a license to open a store that likely sold guns? freshwest Jan 2013 #5

There are LOTS of sporting goods stores that do not sell firearms. Jenoch Jan 2013 #36

That's not the point. Note I said 'likely' not 'certainly' or 'all sporting goods stores.' freshwest Jan 2013 #39

I'm sure an investigation will Jenoch Jan 2013 #45

Yes, 4 trailer truckloads of guns is enough for many people to hold at once. He intended mayhem. freshwest Jan 2013 #48

I guess he had credit . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #6

What gunshow? Jenoch Jan 2013 #37

Gun shows are the easiest . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #43

Where at a gunshow do these transactions take place? Jenoch Jan 2013 #49

Gun shows are regulated . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #50

If an FFL is selling ANY gun, he must perform a background check NickB79 Jan 2013 #59

He's happy in his ignorance. nt naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #96

any vender at a gunshow Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #60

All of them. Prog_gun_owner Jan 2013 #68

How many gun shows have you attended Jenoch Jan 2013 #109

But? atreides1 Jan 2013 #8

Who has disagreed with enforcing current law? Gun laws anyway as I get the feeling that many here 24601 Jan 2013 #21

The problem is guns, Troll . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #26

on this I also disagree with you Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #31

Don't act like a Troll . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #40

He's a model repubLIEcon. penndragon69 Jan 2013 #23

Trace the guns, arrest the sellers. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #33

I support making it mandatory for Jenoch Jan 2013 #35

Mandatory background checks . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #46

Where are you getting your information? Jenoch Jan 2013 #51

Gun shows are wide open free-for-alls. another_liberal Jan 2013 #52

I have never been a member of the NRA. Jenoch Jan 2013 #53

"Isn't it pretty . . .?" another_liberal Jan 2013 #71

Not the few I've attended NickB79 Jan 2013 #57

I'll trust every unbiased, actual news source . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #70

How about posting a link Jenoch Jan 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Jan 2013 #112

No, I've never been in a comma. Jenoch Jan 2013 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Jan 2013 #114

I've heard people like you making such claims, sure. Jenoch Jan 2013 #115

Toward the end of our exchange . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #116

Thank you for the links. Jenoch Jan 2013 #118

I doubt if "biased" is the right word . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #119

Ok. Substitute the word 'objective'. Jenoch Jan 2013 #120

Yes, "objective" . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #121

The law is exactly the same inside a gun show as it is outside hack89 Jan 2013 #87

Yeah, except the law isn't enforced . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #91

So give the ATF the resources they need to enforce the law. hack89 Jan 2013 #92

You'll get . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #97

That is an incorrect statement naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #95

That is the law . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #98

Well naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #99

The point you made . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #100

actually, naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #101

Here, lemme help jeff47 Jan 2013 #107

You won't get an argument Jenoch Jan 2013 #111

disgusting samsingh Jan 2013 #38

Lets estimate $.50 a round. That's $20k in ammo alone. bluerum Jan 2013 #56

I'd guess drug running was in there somewhere NickB79 Jan 2013 #58

You don't have to buy it all at once. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #65

True. But I suspect he was into black market sales. bluerum Jan 2013 #84

That'll confuse a bagger that's only capable of thinking what it gits learnt to think by brewens Jan 2013 #76