HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Sen. Al Franken Raises Do... » Reply #124

Response to hack89 (Reply #123)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:09 PM

124. Well for one thing, .223 doesn't have the killing power to bring down game(Deer and bigger) humanley

and is banned for use in hunting in many states and counties for that reason. For target shooting, semi-autos are generally less accurate than bolt action rifles. As far as ergonomics and ease of use, bolt action rifles are much easier and faster to clean. Semi autos can jam more easily, particularly when fitted with 30 round magazines. You've never had to clear a jam for your Daughter because she couldn't?

The combination of .223/5.56, a semi/full-automatic rifle and a 30 round magazine is called a weapons system. It's called a weapons system because none of those features exist in a vacuum. They all come to together to create a platform for combat. The idea is to give a soldier the ability to fire the maximum amount of bullets with the maximum damage dealing ability in the shortest amount of time with the least amount of carried weight. These design objectives resulted in the compromises I detailed in the previous paragraph that negatively affect civilian uses.

I'm not saying there is no possible argument for these weapons to remain in civilian use. I am just saying that "better for hunting and target shooting" is a bad one. "Sufficient/possible for hunting and target shooting" is closer, and that's not even true in many states regarding hunting. But then the argument becomes less strong does it not?

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 170 replies Author Time Post
DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
SHRED Jan 2013 #1
karynnj Jan 2013 #3
rtassi Jan 2013 #4
Undaunted Jan 2013 #66
Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #78
2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #103
WI_DEM Jan 2013 #8
progressoid Jan 2013 #36
johnfunk Jan 2013 #11
OKNancy Jan 2013 #2
davidpdx Jan 2013 #6
DonViejo Jan 2013 #7
OKNancy Jan 2013 #17
hack89 Jan 2013 #5
MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #9
calimary Jan 2013 #10
dotymed Jan 2013 #12
gateley Jan 2013 #35
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #82
WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #134
Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #162
Ter Jan 2013 #13
DreWId Jan 2013 #74
Ter Jan 2013 #131
daschess1987 Jan 2013 #14
jberryhill Jan 2013 #15
russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #28
still_one Jan 2013 #16
James48 Jan 2013 #18
butterflygirl Jan 2013 #45
appal_jack Jan 2013 #52
AlbertCat Jan 2013 #19
Hoyt Jan 2013 #22
hack89 Jan 2013 #24
AlbertCat Jan 2013 #25
Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #161
krispos42 Jan 2013 #38
AlbertCat Jan 2013 #50
NickB79 Jan 2013 #137
Paladin Jan 2013 #141
NickB79 Jan 2013 #142
Paladin Jan 2013 #145
SylviaD Jan 2013 #150
FrodosPet Jan 2013 #160
SylviaD Jan 2013 #164
FrodosPet Jan 2013 #165
SylviaD Jan 2013 #166
immoderate Jan 2013 #55
wordpix Jan 2013 #20
JVS Jan 2013 #21
LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #23
hack89 Jan 2013 #26
Paladin Jan 2013 #29
hack89 Jan 2013 #31
Paladin Jan 2013 #37
hack89 Jan 2013 #39
Paladin Jan 2013 #47
hack89 Jan 2013 #56
sir pball Jan 2013 #48
nick of time Jan 2013 #33
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #63
nick of time Jan 2013 #65
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #67
nick of time Jan 2013 #70
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #73
nick of time Jan 2013 #76
Socal31 Jan 2013 #136
NickB79 Jan 2013 #139
NickB79 Jan 2013 #138
hack89 Jan 2013 #34
Paladin Jan 2013 #41
hack89 Jan 2013 #42
Paladin Jan 2013 #46
hack89 Jan 2013 #58
Paladin Jan 2013 #95
hack89 Jan 2013 #98
Paladin Jan 2013 #105
hack89 Jan 2013 #106
BainsBane Jan 2013 #154
hack89 Jan 2013 #155
BainsBane Jan 2013 #156
hack89 Jan 2013 #157
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #64
hack89 Jan 2013 #69
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #71
hack89 Jan 2013 #72
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #75
hack89 Jan 2013 #77
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #83
hack89 Jan 2013 #85
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #89
nick of time Jan 2013 #92
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #94
nick of time Jan 2013 #99
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #100
nick of time Jan 2013 #102
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #108
nick of time Jan 2013 #110
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #112
nick of time Jan 2013 #113
Prog_gun_owner Jan 2013 #146
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #148
EX500rider Jan 2013 #104
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #107
EX500rider Jan 2013 #116
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #118
NickB79 Jan 2013 #140
Prog_gun_owner Jan 2013 #147
NickB79 Jan 2013 #144
Post removed Jan 2013 #149
hack89 Jan 2013 #96
Ash_F Jan 2013 #120
hack89 Jan 2013 #121
Ash_F Jan 2013 #122
hack89 Jan 2013 #123
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Well for one thing, .223 doesn't have the killing power to bring down game(Deer and bigger) humanley
Ash_F Jan 2013 #124
hack89 Jan 2013 #125
Ash_F Jan 2013 #126
hack89 Jan 2013 #127
Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #130
krispos42 Jan 2013 #43
bongbong Jan 2013 #53
NickB79 Jan 2013 #143
grantcart Jan 2013 #158
krispos42 Jan 2013 #159
24601 Jan 2013 #152
Marrah_G Jan 2013 #27
nick of time Jan 2013 #32
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #30
sir pball Jan 2013 #51
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #57
Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #79
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #84
Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #87
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #88
Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #90
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #91
nick of time Jan 2013 #93
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #97
nick of time Jan 2013 #101
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #109
nick of time Jan 2013 #111
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #114
nick of time Jan 2013 #115
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #117
nick of time Jan 2013 #119
Pale Blue Dot Jan 2013 #40
LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #44
forestpath Jan 2013 #54
immoderate Jan 2013 #59
Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #86
madville Jan 2013 #128
immoderate Jan 2013 #129
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #49
Android3.14 Jan 2013 #60
amandabeech Jan 2013 #163
Lurks Often Jan 2013 #61
jeff47 Jan 2013 #62
Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #68
mzmolly Jan 2013 #80
Deep13 Jan 2013 #81
samsingh Jan 2013 #132
DonViejo Jan 2013 #133
samsingh Jan 2013 #135
SylviaD Jan 2013 #151
BainsBane Jan 2013 #153
Politicub Jan 2013 #167
DonViejo Jan 2013 #168
SylviaD Jan 2013 #169
aikoaiko Mar 2013 #170
Please login to view edit histories.