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In reply to the discussion: NYC annual murder tally at record low [View all]CreekDog
(46,192 posts)is that also your standard for medicine? does effective medicine work 100% of the time?
Your list of cities with strict gun control:
Boston murder rate: 11.3 (distance to loose laws in New Hampshire: 28 miles)
Chicago murder rate: 15.9 (distance to loose laws in Indiana: 14 miles)
Detroit murder rate: 34.3 (Michigan has lax gun laws, you are being dishonest again)
Cincinnati murder rate: 20.5 (Ohio has lax gun laws, you are being dishonest again)
Newark murder rate: 32.5
Washington DC murder rate: 21.9 (distance to loose gun laws in Virginia: 1 Washington Metro stop away)
And now...
Okay, you bring up California, and its strict gun laws, but you only want to talk about two cities (one of them, Los Angeles, undermines your case by the way):
let's look the murder rate for all CA cities above 250,000 in population (and rank among those cities):
Anaheim 2.1 (tied for 5th best of 74)
San Jose 2.1 (tied for 5th best of 74)
San Diego 2.2 (7th best of 74)
Riverside 3.0 (8th best of 74)
Sacramento 4.2 (16th best of 74)
San Francisco 5.9 (25th best of 74)
Long Beach 6.9 (28th best of 74)
Los Angeles 7.6 (33rd best of 74)
=Median US City murder rate: 7.8=
Santa Ana 8.2 (39th best of 74)
Bakersfield 9.9 (50th best of 74)
=Average US City murder rate: 11.2=
Fresno 14.4 (44th best of 74)
Stockton 16.8 (60th best of 74)
Oakland 22.0 (69th best of 74)
So what you're saying is that you only want to count Oakland and Los Angeles to prove your point? What you don't want us to do is consider all the cities, including San Francisco, San Jose, etc. I assume you don't take us for complete idiots and you'd like to convince us --how do you expect that to work out what with your lies and laughable premises here?