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alp227

(32,015 posts)
16. Hmm...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:03 AM
Dec 2012
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt

"38% of the victims defending themselves with a firearm attacked
the offender, and the others threatened the offender with the
weapon."

"In most cases victims who used firearms to defend themselves or
their property were confronted by offenders who were either unarmed
or armed with weapons other than firearms. "

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/index.html

" Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments and are both socially undesirable and illegal

We analyzed data from two national random-digit-dial surveys conducted under the auspices of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of the purported self-defense gun use rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective."

"Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense.

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Center, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. We found that firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense. All reported cases of criminal gun use, as well as many of the so-called self-defense gun uses, appear to be socially undesirable."

I agree, what's the cost-benefit analysis of guns in self-defense vs escalating confrontations/other violence?
!!!! bongbong Dec 2012 #1
One teacher that failed to think it through. LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #34
This is the NRA's proudest moment for sure. nt aaaaaa5a Dec 2012 #2
What good would a gun in a locker be in the event of an assault? Laurian Dec 2012 #3
It is. Generally when one scratches under the veneer of the US there is a lot of crazy to be found. RKP5637 Dec 2012 #10
"Totally and completely fucked in the head" is the operative phrase, I think. Maybe coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #19
*FACEPALM* Odin2005 Dec 2012 #4
This woman should get jail time........and a lot of it. bowens43 Dec 2012 #5
Uhh, what about self-defense? alp227 Dec 2012 #11
Say, you bring up a great question! SoapBox Dec 2012 #15
Hmm... alp227 Dec 2012 #16
One need not kill someone to succesfully defend oneself. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #30
So, naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #24
Or at least be persuaded to stop Turbineguy Dec 2012 #26
Well, while I don't condone it, can you blame them? Jesus, they're scared witless. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #6
Yes I can blame them for this. HERVEPA Dec 2012 #8
It didn't help that the Police Chief bragged on TV that "they already have guns in our schools". glinda Dec 2012 #7
I wonder what the reaction will be when an armed teacher accidently shoots a student. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #9
"Well, if that student had had his own gun, that wouldn't have happened". Aristus Dec 2012 #12
Bwahahaha! sofa king Dec 2012 #14
wow that is a surprise and sad too n/t azurnoir Dec 2012 #13
The Tree of Knowledge is FULL of NUTs! triplepoint Dec 2012 #17
Bookmarking for this ^ Turborama Dec 2012 #38
Can't really blame her. geomon666 Dec 2012 #18
I have John2 Dec 2012 #23
i have oddoneout Dec 2012 #31
HAH! You had me for a moment there. n/t FourScore Dec 2012 #32
Call me cynical davidpdx Dec 2012 #20
This is why teachers shouldn't have concealed carry. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #21
Craziness. Did she expect something like this: Blandocyte Dec 2012 #22
Another case of not thinking.... 47of74 Dec 2012 #25
"misdemeanor" - endangering the entire school and will receive only a slap on the wrist . . if that DrDan Dec 2012 #27
Maria Montessori called her schools the "Children's House". no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #28
My thought exactly! Of all schools, a Montessori school... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #29
Seriously! n/t FourScore Dec 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #35
That teacher has no business in a classroom. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #36
She Can Be Wayne LaPierre's Date At This Year's NRA Banquet. Paladin Dec 2012 #37
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