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In reply to the discussion: Chuck Hagel apologizes for gay slur [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)61. What Democrat out there would be willing to say that we need to cut
defense spending even further, and stand up to the AIPAC/PNAC crowd?
I'd love to hear names of people who would want the job and could get confirmed.
Note that Barack Obama doesn't qualify on either count.
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Good sign? Would you say that if Bush were the one about to nominate him to serve as Secretary of
merrily
Dec 2012
#3
It shows that the GLBT concerns were taken more seriously than the Netanyahu crowd's were. nt
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#11
Hagel has not even been nominated yet. We don't know what Hagel will ultimately say about Israel.
merrily
Dec 2012
#35
Lots of campaign bundlers and donors not very happy with Hagel due to Israel concerns.
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#39
Funny how his growth on social issues did not manifest until he had his eyes on the Cabinet and
merrily
Dec 2012
#6
Yes, and what he did was object to having a gay man serve his country as ambassador.
merrily
Dec 2012
#32
No one says people don't grow. No one says people don't change parties, either.
merrily
Dec 2012
#36
Geithner changed his affiliation when he was in Clinton's Treasury department. nt
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#40
I disagree. He reflected the values of some people. Every state has homophobes, even New York,
merrily
Dec 2012
#42
14 years ago was not 1950. And, again, he did not recant until he had a selfish motive.
merrily
Dec 2012
#19
If he did not want this nomination, I doubt he would be retracting it, even today.
merrily
Dec 2012
#20
Would they want the job? Would they be willing to say "the Pentagon spends too much?"
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#67
How does Hagel's being a Republican give Hagel and Obama shift to the left on any issue?
merrily
Dec 2012
#56
Because Democrats are scared shitless to move left on defense/national security
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#57
I know. I said Panetta was a Nixon Republican. And you are saying that Democrats can't be
merrily
Dec 2012
#60
Democrats who are unafraid to take Democratic stands on the issues would be great.
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#62
Anti-GLBT bigotry was sadly common back then. Paul Wellstone voted for DOMA only 2 years
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#12
Back then? Are you kidding me? The 1990s were not the 1950s, for crying out loud.
merrily
Dec 2012
#23
Was I a homophobe 14 years ago? Probably to some degree, but certainly not to that
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#29
Okay, how many Democrats with the right credentials are willing to go on the record:
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#50
14 yrs ago, I was a religious, conservative bigot, thought gay people were sick, hellbound sinners.
phleshdef
Dec 2012
#13
That doesn't bother me. He isn't hawkish. He believes the Pentagon needs cut down.
phleshdef
Dec 2012
#41
Things you say freely, which Hagel does not say at all, even under current pressures:
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#77
Are you saying that he voted against DOMA? If not, which ban on gay marriage did he vote against?
merrily
Dec 2012
#24
Not as good as it sounds on the surface. I googled. I did not spend a lot of time because
merrily
Dec 2012
#54
Latest Breaking News forum rules limit the amount of a story you can quote
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#49
I assumed it was an honest ommission, but I also posted the quote in the thread.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#78
a 'statement' is a start but not enough! A real press conference with in depth discussion is needed
Sunlei
Dec 2012
#65
Washington Post is outraged with Hagel claiming he will push Obama far to the left on foreign policy
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2012
#69
Hi! I'm a gay bashing bigot that wants to be Defense Secretary! Let me take care of a few odds and
Safetykitten
Dec 2012
#74
What Hagel said was not just a 'gay slur' it was a personalized attack on an individual using his
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#76