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43. Belive it or not, it wasn't his fault.

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:31 PM

Dec 2012

You can't blame everything on that asshole, no matter how convenient it would be.

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Outlaw owning the fucking things also!!! Buddaman Dec 2012 #1

People will just grind off the bayonet lug krispos42 Dec 2012 #6

Then ban those as well! Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #27

Like I've been saying... krispos42 Dec 2012 #30

Yes please stop with the term assault weapon exboyfil Dec 2012 #55

Doesn't matter if you see it or not. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #77

I guess you missed the sarcasm exboyfil Dec 2012 #106

Well, prairie dogs and rock chucks are a valid example. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #107

yes you are missing the name. Assault Weapon. For assaulting military targets pasto76 Dec 2012 #98

You have fallen for the "assault weapon" trap. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #115

How can you call *what defines an assault weapon* a red herring? Recursion Dec 2012 #153

Well, people are also pretty fast with a lever-action krispos42 Dec 2012 #123

See #110. PavePusher Dec 2012 #124

Looks like you're missing pig hunting ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #178

you don't know anything about this topic as evidenced by your stupid statement about Feinstein CreekDog Dec 2012 #67

Fail. Your factually deficient insult doesn't seem to be working. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #82

He actually knows quite a bit about it ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #100

If he knew then he lied when saying her position was insincere CreekDog Dec 2012 #125

She has feet of clay on this issue ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #130

you're moving the goalposts, the poster said she was insincere in her position CreekDog Dec 2012 #134

No I am not, I am taking the position that there are better standard bearers on this issue ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #135

I believe there was an assault weapons ban on the books when Clinton left office. Left Coast2020 Dec 2012 #138

The Federal AWB had a sunset clause and was not renewed ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #141

Bingo. it's not the scary-looking "special features" that make the weapon dangerous Scootaloo Dec 2012 #103

What about AR-15 pistols that fire the same 5.56 NATO round? n/t ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #177

That's a pistol. krispos42 Dec 2012 #179

Exactly my point ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #180

A law impossible to enforce. Nazis coming into your house to search for assault weapons? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #128

She's pandering to pro-control voters.... krispos42 Dec 2012 #2

I don't know much about guns but I think anything that shoots more than one bullet put pull Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #13

They are tightly restricted krispos42 Dec 2012 #16

Then those semi-automatics don't need to be around either. Why does anyone need one of those? Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #91

Exactly, thats why police carry them, to go on killing sprees. beevul Dec 2012 #137

Then, with all due respect.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #39

I didn't know that and I posted below that I didn't realize how easy it is to fire so rapidly with Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #90

You are right, they should be outlawed. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #75

Why? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #78

OK I did not realize how easy it was to fire these semi automatic guns. I thought this kid Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #88

Actually, they've (semi-auto rifles) been used in hunting for over 100 years. PavePusher Dec 2012 #110

Learn something new every day.... ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #118

Remington is on of the best guns made, oldbanjo Dec 2012 #174

My grandparents and uncles were all hunters and they used shotguns. Why aren't they good Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #144

Depends what your grandparents hunted NickB79 Dec 2012 #146

First off what the hell are you hunting bears for? You don't need bear meat. And if Native Maraya1969 Dec 2012 #176

Bear meat makes good sausage NickB79 Dec 2012 #190

I hunt Ducks and Deer, when their 40- 50 yards or so with oldbanjo Dec 2012 #175

I've hunted with an Browning auto rifle and shotgun sense 1969, oldbanjo Dec 2012 #173

Why does she need to pander to anyone? adieu Dec 2012 #28

Because like most media personalities, she's emotionally invested in her relevance. krispos42 Dec 2012 #32

^^^ exactly correct ^^^ Flatulo Dec 2012 #57

you don't know what you're talking about as you illustrated upthread CreekDog Dec 2012 #69

Fail. Your factually deficient insult doesn't seem to be working. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #83

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #81

she's not pandering on this, she became mayor via assassination CreekDog Dec 2012 #68

Fail. Your factually deficient insult doesn't seem to be working. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #85

Another fail on your part ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #101

Let Her Pander If It Moves Us To A World Without These Weapons Of Mass Destruction cantbeserious Dec 2012 #49

Feinstein has been pro-gun control since colleagues Mayor Moscone and Sup. Milk were assassinated CreekDog Dec 2012 #65

Fail. Your factually deficient insult doesn't seem to be working. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #86

I know about that krispos42 Dec 2012 #87

We don't even know adieu Dec 2012 #93

I understand that... krispos42 Dec 2012 #112

No gun legislation will be passed until Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #121

It should have NEVER been lifted to begin with... Earth_First Dec 2012 #3

The federally licensed dealers are pretty much the entire gun show. krispos42 Dec 2012 #7

It still contributes to the 'gun culture' stigma Earth_First Dec 2012 #8

So you want to wage a culture war, then? krispos42 Dec 2012 #12

you started off posting in this thread with a big blast of ignorance, why take you seriously now? CreekDog Dec 2012 #72

Fail. Your factually deficient insult doesn't seem to be working. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #84

Like I said... krispos42 Dec 2012 #116

Yes, it is a culture war adieu Dec 2012 #94

Well, violent-crime rates are down pretty good krispos42 Dec 2012 #126

It's no more "entertainment" than a farmers market (to extend your obvious analogy and bias). n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #41

So No Loop Hole? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #136

That's been my argument. krispos42 Dec 2012 #142

OK fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #160

Private transactions should still go through a background check krispos42 Dec 2012 #167

Interesting fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #168

It uses the existing infrastructure krispos42 Dec 2012 #170

hhmmmm fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #171

It wasn't lifted Ter Dec 2012 #111

As she has done every year since 2004 slackmaster Dec 2012 #4

Don't know why the assault ban was allowed to expire in the first place n/t OhioChick Dec 2012 #5

That was W. that let it expire.......... Buddaman Dec 2012 #9

Actually, W said he'd sign it if Congress put the bill on his desk slackmaster Dec 2012 #14

Bush didn't let it expire, axetogrind Dec 2012 #24

Belive it or not, it wasn't his fault. PavePusher Dec 2012 #43

He knew it wasn't going to hit his desk adieu Dec 2012 #95

Blame the authors of the 1994 ban Ter Dec 2012 #113

W said he would sign an extension. Congress didn't pass one, probably because it's a dumb law Recursion Dec 2012 #155

Because it was a dumb idea. krispos42 Dec 2012 #10

I remember the debates in Congress well. The 10-year sunset clause was one of the last compromises. slackmaster Dec 2012 #11

Because both parties, R & D, refused to do it. N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #20

You could have purchased a virtually identical weapon while the AWB was in effect. dairydog91 Dec 2012 #37

Beacause it was useless law that had no measurable effect on crime. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #42

And when some right wing moron yells "Obama is taking away my guns!!11!!" you reply Javaman Dec 2012 #15

Perfect tawadi Dec 2012 #23

That's actually pretty profoundly true. If the mother had kept those guns securely locked up Flatulo Dec 2012 #59

Meanwhile, back in reality. Callisto32 Dec 2012 #60

And like many people Javaman Dec 2012 #66

If the weapons are bannec mainstreetonce Dec 2012 #17

They're registered only in a handful of states slackmaster Dec 2012 #18

None of my weapons are registered. axetogrind Dec 2012 #25

Are you volunteering to be on the door-to-door confiscation team? PavePusher Dec 2012 #44

This does not even go far enough, not even close horsedoc Dec 2012 #19

More than one. Here is a list: GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #22

3rd link apparently not working Orrex Dec 2012 #36

Thanks. I fixed it. N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #64

Feinstein just give those seats away djnicadress Dec 2012 #21

Enjoy your stay. nt livetohike Dec 2012 #26

Yeah and the issue requires a little more thought Tutonic Dec 2012 #29

What arbitrary limit do you propose, and why? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #45

Why not hunt with a bow and arrow? Or a spear? LonePirate Dec 2012 #33

Some people like being a little more in touch with where their food comes from. PavePusher Dec 2012 #46

You don't know much about game management do you? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #73

Do you value human life? LonePirate Dec 2012 #89

No not really kwolf68 Dec 2012 #159

Depends upon the game. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #162

Not going to work. Don't waste your time. onehandle Dec 2012 #34

Bull sellitman Dec 2012 #53

Even if it passes, it is a crying shame (literally), that it would take the murders of so many Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #31

I think.... lancer78 Dec 2012 #117

And make it stick. Don't let it expire in 10 years question everything Dec 2012 #35

+1000! Fearless Dec 2012 #38

I doubt it will succeed. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #40

Point taken. So lobby and advocate for a a bill thucythucy Dec 2012 #48

It would probably be struck down by the SC anyway Ter Dec 2012 #114

Compare and Contrast: TinkerTot55 Dec 2012 #47

Gun ownership IS a right. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #74

I say limit the magazine to 5 rounds. If you are caught with a.... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #50

Making it harder for the mentally unstable to obtain firearms? DFW Dec 2012 #51

Again? Clames Dec 2012 #52

What does "not retroactively but prospectively.." mean, anyway customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #54

And this bill will do absolutely nothing to prevent another massacre, except Flatulo Dec 2012 #56

True lancer78 Dec 2012 #119

Could we require a license to operate a gun like we require a license to drive a car? RickFromMN Dec 2012 #58

Adam Lanza would be in big trouble under your proposal. nt Flatulo Dec 2012 #61

You don't need a license to drive on private property, only on public roads hack89 Dec 2012 #92

I would suggest they need a license even if the gun were kept on private property. RickFromMN Dec 2012 #166

Some states require such licenses - it is a state matter. hack89 Dec 2012 #169

I honestly don't know what kind of examinations should be done. RickFromMN Dec 2012 #188

You need to read Heller hack89 Dec 2012 #189

To all you idiots who says she's pandering loyalkydem Dec 2012 #62

What you are asking for is not what she is proposing. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #70

I'm not asking for an all out ban you idiot. God. loyalkydem Dec 2012 #147

I never said you were asking for an all out ban. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #163

I don't think she is pandering, but there is nothing in this bill that would have Flatulo Dec 2012 #71

This will give a big boost to Scott Brown's campaign JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #63

Let me remind you wus Brown lost by 8 points. loyalkydem Dec 2012 #76

The federal assault weapon ban in its traditional form was worthless madville Dec 2012 #79

Banning these guns will not past the "dudes" in Congress Missouri Lad Dec 2012 #96

With such legislation, at least we won't have to worry about another job-transferring "free-trade" AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #80

It seems what we need is a constitutional amendment high density Dec 2012 #97

If it's the old 1994 AWB, it will be useless NickB79 Dec 2012 #99

then help write a better law CreekDog Dec 2012 #149

I'd love to, but I can't find any good ideas NickB79 Dec 2012 #150

right, so you just encourage us to give up CreekDog Dec 2012 #152

No, I'm asking for suggestions NickB79 Dec 2012 #157

The MSNBC Shows mimi85 Dec 2012 #102

I seriously hope it includes an enforcement provision that allows for kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #104

Are you calling for warrantless searches and seizures? NickB79 Dec 2012 #129

Feinstein's bill doesn't go nearly far enough. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #132

So, police state it is then? NickB79 Dec 2012 #133

The Supreme Court used to say slavery was ok and now it doesn't. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #182

need to round up all the "odd" people and put them in a hole also just to be safe I assume? Mr Peabody Dec 2012 #181

More like advocating violence against citizens. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #145

The Republicans want to revert back to the old west Joe the Progressive Dec 2012 #105

Welcome to DU, Joe. SunSeeker Dec 2012 #120

Guns: boy-toys for boys that never grew up. Maineman Dec 2012 #185

Closing the barn door after the horses have wandered off sounds like a bad idea nolabels Dec 2012 #108

Call it defacto7 Dec 2012 #109

Question is will it withstand a SCOTUS challenge? 20 years ago I would have said it had a 50/50 cstanleytech Dec 2012 #122

Feinstein has had a safe seat for a twenty years The Second Stone Dec 2012 #127

Ban magazines of more than 5 bullets while you're at it. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #131

Carpe diem, Senator! Make us proud of you! Hekate Dec 2012 #139

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #140

This will cause a rush on the stores! Blandocyte Dec 2012 #143

who the hell cares? CreekDog Dec 2012 #148

An assault weapons ban like Connecticut has? Recursion Dec 2012 #151

See...this is the real problem: jonesgirl Dec 2012 #154

Banning assault weapons makes sense. Who's watch did this happen under, I wonder. mother earth Dec 2012 #156

Except they weren't banned in 1994 NickB79 Dec 2012 #158

Then that should be taken into consideration. If someone is hell bent on death and destruction, mother earth Dec 2012 #161

Exactly. "Assault weapons" are still banned in California. And yet you can find them in any gunshop. Xithras Dec 2012 #172

The Time To Act is Now triplepoint Dec 2012 #164

The Democrats need to grow a pair and support DiFi! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #165

Regardless of how well it does in the Senate... Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #183

Not Retroactive? Then it is mostly grandstanding. Get serious. Maineman Dec 2012 #184

One simple question for our politicians: Maineman Dec 2012 #186

good news and any future elections of any type, those who vote against this are doomed! Sunlei Dec 2012 #187