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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:42 PM

nickinSTL (4,833 posts)

118. uh...really?

I don't know about your state, but...I can tell you that it is NOT easier to get a gun than register to vote in IL.

When I bought a gun (strictly because I enjoy target shooting), there was a 3-day waiting period while a background check was performed.

I did not have a waiting period or background check when I registered to vote.

I also needed to provide a state ID to buy a gun, which isn't less than is necessary to register to vote.

I'm not a fan of the concept of concealed carry, and am completely against the kind of roadblocks being put up to prevent the poor, elderly and others from voting. However, this kind of statement doesn't do anything to further your case.

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121 replies	Author	Time	Post
Michigan: Bill Allowing Concealed Weapons In Schools Approved By House Committee [View all]	Purveyor	Dec 2012	OP
Are they out of their minds?	Demeter	Dec 2012	#1
Pretty much proved that yesterday...	thatgemguy	Dec 2012	#31
What could possibly go wrong???	Roland99	Dec 2012	#2
The resolution to the Appalachain Law School shooting?	AtheistCrusader	Dec 2012	#4
Are you implying it will lead to more gun violence? If so I dont buy that line of argument.	cstanleytech	Dec 2012	#26
At least if they are in the open now, it's easier to see who's packing.	Roland99	Dec 2012	#56
Concealed and open carry has been legal in many states for quite a long time....	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#76
I'm quite sure it will happen one day	Roland99	Dec 2012	#107
Lunatics. nt	onehandle	Dec 2012	#3
I call them the Lansing Loonies.	MichiganVote	Dec 2012	#5
I know that if I or a child I loved were huddled behind a desk hoping a school shooter woud pass me	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#6
All gun nuts fancy themselves as Bruce Willis	Politicub	Dec 2012	#18
You mean like this?	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#19
You made my point. These are all vigilante pew pew fantasies.	Politicub	Dec 2012	#21
Sigh... No i didn't. That you think I did is sad, a poor reflection on our educational system.	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#23
Huh? Are you honestly saying you went through all of this?	Politicub	Dec 2012	#24
No, simply that my "fantasy" is a world in which decent, law-abiding people are equipped to save	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#27
The world sounds like it's a scary place for you.	Politicub	Dec 2012	#30
I appreciate your concern, but I don't think the odds of that are very large. You may consider	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#32
The odds of a fire extinguisher killing or injuring	Shadowflash	Dec 2012	#54
+1. All great points.	Politicub	Dec 2012	#59
I'm in favor of levying heavy taxes on ink and electrons...	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#77
So an experienced unarmed teacher who trains & arms herself to defend...	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#110
People are being blown to bits and all you do is roll out the same tired crap	Politicub	Dec 2012	#111
You are in a paranoid panic. Get control of yourself.	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#113
I love it when KNIFE weilding assailants pause and hold their poses, waiting for 2nd Amdmnt Justice.	Bucky	Dec 2012	#121
You mean like this	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#49
Yes. Just like that.	Politicub	Dec 2012	#58
The non-dead people	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#65
The evidence: Thousands of families and their children have paid the ultimate price	Politicub	Dec 2012	#71
False conclusion - Not causal	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#75
Where's your research? All you have is opinion.	Politicub	Dec 2012	#85
OK, let's try again and I'll type slower	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#89
c) Not sure. Some people get restraining orders.	Politicub	Dec 2012	#90
Because research will not tell what you think	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#92
I don't understand your premise or your question	Politicub	Dec 2012	#93
Yes	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#94
Michigan allows open carry in the schools now.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#7
But God forbid if you light up a cigarette in the school parking lot!	TahitiNut	Dec 2012	#63
What...	pizzadave	Dec 2012	#8
Michiganians	heaven05	Dec 2012	#9
Yup, my thanks to all MI citizens who found other stuff to do more important than voting in 2010	Bozita	Dec 2012	#12
I know some "liberals" who voted for Snyder	JustABozoOnThisBus	Dec 2012	#20
Stand your playground?	trusty elf	Dec 2012	#10
Someone has to say it: What the hell is wrong with Michigan? Michiganders gone wild!	AAO	Dec 2012	#11
protect yourself from gun owners .... get your own gun nt	msongs	Dec 2012	#13
repeal the 2nd amendment and	Phillip McCleod	Dec 2012	#14
Because "war on drugs" has worked so well...	davidthegnome	Dec 2012	#38
Are you trying to start a Civil War? n/t	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#78
This country's obsession with guns has got to stop.	Brigid	Dec 2012	#15
Guns provide an illusion of power, which is why they have such a tight hold on Americans	Politicub	Dec 2012	#17
How else is he going to protect himself from...whatever is going	TwilightGardener	Dec 2012	#28
You should call him Yosemite Sam	rightsideout	Dec 2012	#40
So you are worried	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#51
Yes, it does. That's why gun nut relative should leave his toys in the car.	Comrade Grumpy	Dec 2012	#70
I sure hope you don't have any meat to cut	AlexSatan	Dec 2012	#74
Why not? They can oppress the people so much that they fight one another	Politicub	Dec 2012	#16
WTF???	Odin2005	Dec 2012	#22
Those mofos in Michigan are batshit crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	OldRedneck	Dec 2012	#25
Okay, is it just me, or are they actually trolling citizens into revolts which could be used	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2012	#29
I'll bet after the events of this week alot of Dems are re-thinking the guns thing. I can see a	okaawhatever	Dec 2012	#33
Just what is an 'alot'? eom	Purveyor	Dec 2012	#35
Maybe this will explain	historylovr	Dec 2012	#66
LOL. eom	Purveyor	Dec 2012	#67
This is so wrong.	Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel	Dec 2012	#34
So private businesses may allow guns because of their rights	DJ13	Dec 2012	#36
I think the world is really gonna end. Crazy shit going on!	underoath	Dec 2012	#37
Bowling for Columbine part 2	triplepoint	Dec 2012	#39
Insanity	davidthegnome	Dec 2012	#41
So, what is keeping people with criminal purposes from carrying right now?	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#80
Is that intended as a question?	davidthegnome	Dec 2012	#101
Again you seem to be saying that the permit enables action that would not be possible without it.	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#105
It's easier to get a gun then it is to register to vote	rightsideout	Dec 2012	#42
uh...really?	nickinSTL	Dec 2012	#118
Teenagers, raging hormones, and the lack of maturity to handle the responsibility...	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#43
Are you suggesting that the children be armed?	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#46
Does this "law" say they can't be? Btw, I'm not suggesting anything of the kind....	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#47
You need to be 21 and have a concealed weapon permit.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#53
Utter nonsense. nt.	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#60
The minimum age to get a concealed weapons permit in that state is 21	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#61
The fact that you are apparently ignorant of what the law says? n/t	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#82
And how quickly will those idiots change the law to lower the age requirement? nt.	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#87
Hasn't happened in any state yet.	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#91
it is a federal crime (with few exeptions)	gejohnston	Dec 2012	#96
Really tired of DU being used as an anti gun platform.	L0oniX	Dec 2012	#44
What a joke	bongbong	Dec 2012	#102
Hmmm ...Gun Control & RKBA, 119 posts ...looks like you may have an agenda.	L0oniX	Dec 2012	#103
Are you a stalker?	bongbong	Dec 2012	#120
Gee, wonder if they'll let us carry them in the capital at the next protest!	erinlough	Dec 2012	#45
Why do casinos get an exemption?	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2012	#48
Hey, what could be safer?	primavera	Dec 2012	#50
You obviously did not read the article.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#55
You're right	primavera	Dec 2012	#64
Just wrote an article on NRA and their negative effects	TimKeller	Dec 2012	#52
Create some OPs; let's hear some of you ideas.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#57
Blog-spam. Bu-bye now. n/t	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#81
"Except federal buildings, courthouses and casinos."	toby jo	Dec 2012	#62
What the hell is in the water up there??	Myrina	Dec 2012	#68
Republicans.......nothing more than bought and sold Republicans. Eom	erinlough	Dec 2012	#114
OMG	proud2BlibKansan	Dec 2012	#69
Well this is a sure promotion for the NRA so that people will live in	glinda	Dec 2012	#72
This law change actually results in less guns.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#84
"Shootout at the Jungle Gym"	moondust	Dec 2012	#73
man there must be a lot of frightened people in michigan....	madrchsod	Dec 2012	#79
good deal for the gun shops, now they can have 'back to school' sales in August	olddad56	Dec 2012	#83
Not really. See post #84.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#86
Stop this nonsense by having the right to carry in legislatures and courts.	kiranon	Dec 2012	#88
You obviously did not read the article.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#98
just fucking absurd!!	and-justice-for-all	Dec 2012	#95
You, too, did not read the article.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#99
6 months tops before someone gets shot and killed.	NickP	Dec 2012	#97
Maybe, but not due to this more restrictive law.	ManiacJoe	Dec 2012	#100
OMG they're arming the children now?	trouble.smith	Dec 2012	#104
Just in! Law amended to arm fetus! With AK-47s!	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#112
oh noes, not the fetuses too.	trouble.smith	Dec 2012	#115
Why, they're gonna arm the thought that brought you into the world!	Eleanors38	Dec 2012	#116
They passed it last night.	catbyte	Dec 2012	#106
Yes and now waiting for the Governors signature. eom	Purveyor	Dec 2012	#109
Wow, are we gun obsessed or what?	primavera	Dec 2012	#108
Worst. Timing. Ever.	KamaAina	Dec 2012	#117
The shooting at the school today actually supports this bill.	Kablooie	Dec 2012	#119

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