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In reply to the discussion: Chicago vows to fight concealed carry ruling [View all]hack89
(39,171 posts)32. This alderman support the ruling
Ald. Howard Brookins, 21st, chairman of the City Council black caucus, welcomed the decision, saying allowing Chicagoans to carry concealed weapons would help level the playing field in neighborhoods where law-abiding citizens feel like they need firearms to protect themselves.
"Certain people will have a sense of safety and peace of mind in the ability to do it," Brookins said of conceal-carry. "I know that even people, for example, just trying to see that their loved ones get homes safely are in technical violation of all sorts of weapons violations. If you just walk out to your garage and see that your wife is coming in the house safely, and you happen to have your gun on you, you're in technical violation of our ordinance. So I would hope all these ordinances would be consolidated so there's one set of rules and people would know where the bright line is to what they can and cannot do with respect to carrying a weapon."
Brookins said he's not worried doing away with the state ban would lead to an increase in gun violence as more people walk the streets with weapons. "I think those people have a gun now, they've just been made criminals because they can't legally have it," Brookins said. "And I think the gangbangers and thugs are going to have a gun regardless."
"Certain people will have a sense of safety and peace of mind in the ability to do it," Brookins said of conceal-carry. "I know that even people, for example, just trying to see that their loved ones get homes safely are in technical violation of all sorts of weapons violations. If you just walk out to your garage and see that your wife is coming in the house safely, and you happen to have your gun on you, you're in technical violation of our ordinance. So I would hope all these ordinances would be consolidated so there's one set of rules and people would know where the bright line is to what they can and cannot do with respect to carrying a weapon."
Brookins said he's not worried doing away with the state ban would lead to an increase in gun violence as more people walk the streets with weapons. "I think those people have a gun now, they've just been made criminals because they can't legally have it," Brookins said. "And I think the gangbangers and thugs are going to have a gun regardless."
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Why do you think the lawful will suddenly become a bigger pproblem than the criminals?
PavePusher
Dec 2012
#37
A comparison the gun Prohibtionists are extremly reluctant to make...
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#64
If it's all about the guns, then why doesn't Houston have the same rate as Chicago?
X_Digger
Dec 2012
#119
"The only people that can get concealed-carry permits are people with squeaky-clean records"....
-..__...
Dec 2012
#11
Why is it folks in Chicago, like these aldermen, have sane approach to guns while rest of country
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#6
You mean the alderman who can and do, carry concealed? But say it's not safe for everyone else?
X_Digger
Dec 2012
#12
Ban them too, if it's really happening. Laws severely restricting carrying guns in public are sane.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#19
Way out is to repeal that 1872 law that many alder-people do not use, cause they don't carry.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#24
Who says they don't work, or that things would be better with a bunch of cowboys toting?
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#28
Don't particularly like term "gangbangers", although used a lot by resident gun cultists here.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#34
Where do you get that, Hack? They are doing what gun manufacturers, republicans, callous
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#84
That's your privilege- however, your beliefs do not seem to carry much weight.
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#88
"...link...that is not a violation of TOS?" He won't link to GOP-founded, GOP-led Brady Center. nt
Eleanors38
Dec 2012
#53
Sooooo....if you think that creating laws that restrict carrying guns in public is the answer.......
Budgies Revenge
Dec 2012
#97
Really, you're absolutely sure that my packing wouldn't help a single thing?
Budgies Revenge
Dec 2012
#106
But what you can't do is provide links to posts where I've made broad brush smears
Trunk Monkey
Dec 2012
#36
All you have to do is go to gungeon and read the "celebration of firearms" to know poster is correct
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#35
I'm not sure why a "sarcasm" tag is used if an untruth is still an untruth...
Eleanors38
Dec 2012
#55
I don't get this logic. The guys that are doing the killing NOW don't have concealed carry permits..
truebrit71
Dec 2012
#10
You mean the guy that has to keep writing checks to the opposing legal teams?
PavePusher
Dec 2012
#40
Umm, the law was struck down, but nothing changed regarding legal gun ownership.
Eleanors38
Dec 2012
#57
I doubt that the SCOTUS would accept that the city has standing to contest...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#23
Yes, we are. We like arguments that feature something called 'evidence'.
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#66
Really? Here's a post I made today with that very thing, by way of an item known as a 'link':
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#87
All predicated on Miller which talks about the *weapon*, not the scope of the right.
X_Digger
Dec 2012
#81
Why would anyone do that. If it's that complicated, there's plenty of room for a more astute Court
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#91
So repeal the second amendment, then repeal all the state analogs, then the ninth..
X_Digger
Dec 2012
#98
I agree with your social outlook, and I wish the Democratic Party would once AGAIN...
Eleanors38
Dec 2012
#63
Actually, "progressive" (as well as "liberal") are apt terms to support strong 2A rights...
Eleanors38
Dec 2012
#61
Good - Democracy in action from the leaders of a proud Blue city. Little wonder that our
apocalypsehow
Dec 2012
#60
Angry? Chicago's unconstitutional law is going down. The last regressive gun-law state.
Eleanors38
Dec 2012
#62