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primavera

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38. Yep, I just agree with the dissenting opinion of the four liberal justices...

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:10 PM

Dec 2012

... whose views most Democrats consider to be intellectually sounder than the conclusions of the five rabid wingnuts who gave us Citizens United and Bush v. Gore, whose decision in Heller you are triumphantly trumpeting.

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US Appeals court strikes down Illinois ban on concealed carry [View all] truebrit71 Dec 2012 OP

Dickless Dirty Harry wannabes celebrate. I expect a bunch of George Zimmermans will be born. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #1

Whereas half-witted jackasses bemoan the upholding of the people's rights n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #11

Good news for the people of Illinois. Link to the ruling here... slackmaster Dec 2012 #2

It sucks jpak Dec 2012 #39

There is no place for state's rights when it comes to the Constitution. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #3

Spam deleted by SidDithers (MIR Team) TForbster Dec 2012 #4

Welcome to DU. I appreciate that anti-Fox sentiment, but frankly there is no nexus... slackmaster Dec 2012 #5

OH NO. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #6

How do you know they aren't packing already? Throd Dec 2012 #8

Do you ever venture into the rest of the US--the 40 states that are "shall issue"? n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #12

I have as much right not to be around armed people kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #19

If you live in Illinois there are already people around you who are carrying concealed firearms... slackmaster Dec 2012 #20

"they'll almost certainly leave it to the discretion of local law enforcement people" TPaine7 Dec 2012 #22

I skimmed it very quickly. Does it imply that only an objective system of issuing permits... slackmaster Dec 2012 #23

Not explicitly that I noticed. They did condemn the NY ruling, however: TPaine7 Dec 2012 #25

There's Heller again primavera Dec 2012 #31

You're simply wrong. Read the history, I have. There is a book on Amazon TPaine7 Dec 2012 #35

I have read the history and the cases primavera Dec 2012 #36

So you know all about how the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment explicitly set out to TPaine7 Dec 2012 #37

Yep, I just agree with the dissenting opinion of the four liberal justices... primavera Dec 2012 #38

Identity legal-historical analysis is about as respectable as identity physics TPaine7 Dec 2012 #40

True, but the company one keeps should give one pause primavera Dec 2012 #41

The thing is, I believed most of what Scalia said before he ever heard of Dick Heller or TPaine7 Dec 2012 #42

Of course you did primavera Dec 2012 #43

Sigh... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #44

You have as much right to not be around armed people as you have to not be around people TPaine7 Dec 2012 #21

When was the last time kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #29

What does "multiple" or "crowd" have to do with it? Aren't the issues "killing" and "public"? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #32

Excellent news and about time! -..__... Dec 2012 #7

Now watch as Chicago becomes a violent place. Throd Dec 2012 #9

I saw what you did there! nt hack89 Dec 2012 #10

Great post!!! n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #13

It wasn't as if Chicago didn't turn into a shooting gallery each Spring already. JVS Dec 2012 #14

But Elliot Ness could not have tried to arrest Frank Nitti in "The Untouchables" if this ruling winstars Dec 2012 #15

If I remember right, in the Untouchables, Nitti brought a gun into the courthouse. hughee99 Dec 2012 #28

Support from a leading Alderman! There's a surprise DonP Dec 2012 #16

Yes, finally the truth is being acknowledged: TPaine7 Dec 2012 #17

Good. I live in Chicago and have been arguing with a friend about this for years. atufal Dec 2012 #18

Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #24

The dissent has the better argument then Posner and the Majority happyslug Dec 2012 #26

I don't know. Posner is a highly respected jurist, and he is no fan of self-defense. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #30

Posner also wrote an opinion that a drug addict is employable happyslug Dec 2012 #46

I'd like the Illinois legislature to reaffirm their long standing law and tell the Court of Appeals byeya Dec 2012 #27

That would be very good for gun rights. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #33

From what I hear, many southern county DAs already disregard the law. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #34

State's rights fan, are you? Do you think California's Proposition 8 is also legit? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #45