I'm listening to it on the local news (Reply #4)

In the discussion thread: Breaking: 2 Killed, 1 Injured by Man Armed with Rifle at Mall Near Portland (20-60 Shots Reported) [View all]

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Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:16 PM

me b zola (19,053 posts)

4. I'm listening to it on the local news

Just as it was breaking I was worried that my DIL might be there with the kids...then my grand-daughter called just to say hello

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Breaking: 2 Killed, 1 Injured by Man Armed with Rifle at Mall Near Portland (20-60 Shots Reported) [View all]	Hissyspit	Dec 2012	OP
Moar guns. Moar guns. Moar guns.	onehandle	Dec 2012	#1
He could have done it with something else... lawn furniture maybe...	Electric Monk	Dec 2012	#21
A sign forbidding guns, a law against carrying in public, or a law against shooting people...	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#28
the mall is a guns free zone nt	littlewolf	Dec 2012	#73
Is it?	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#82
Disclaimer: I was told this by someone else.	littlewolf	Dec 2012	#93
Some moran probably thought it read "free guns at the mall".	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#151
until it wasn't	Trunk Monkey	Dec 2012	#163
There is no law against shooting people in Clackamas county?	enlightenment	Dec 2012	#86
People think we need laws to stop these things, so I was being sarcastic.	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#101
I like your second sentence.	enlightenment	Dec 2012	#106
That's ok. You have been civil to me; not everyone has to agree.	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#108
He could have used a bomb	lbrtbell	Dec 2012	#37
He did not use a bomb.	SoapBox	Dec 2012	#43
Duh but he could have	RegieRocker	Dec 2012	#133
Give it up.	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#48
Well said.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#90
To you I would qualify as a "gun nut." ...	spin	Dec 2012	#104
Intellectual dishonesty and the mouths of morons have probably killed more people than guns.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#150
LOL	bongbong	Dec 2012	#157
Moral superiority is a funny thing.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#160
Strawmen are funny	bongbong	Dec 2012	#164
I couldn't help noticing it took some other men with "toys" to neutralize the attacking guy...	pop topcan	Dec 2012	#244
That's enough. Seriously. You're ridiculous.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#57
You've got that right.	crim son	Dec 2012	#72
Let's see...	Tommy_Carcetti	Dec 2012	#58
Not many people know how to build a bomb, me included	madokie	Dec 2012	#66
I think the google probably has it. Probably youtube also.	Mojorabbit	Dec 2012	#110
You don't know he would need mental help until	upaloopa	Dec 2012	#226
+1	valerief	Dec 2012	#52
Thinking about it, this whole "GUNS & FREEDOM" religion pushed by the right is a SCAM.	alp227	Dec 2012	#76
Oh, Jeez. Here we go again.	Laurian	Dec 2012	#2
Your right we have to wait til Fox News says its ok.	southernyankeebelle	Dec 2012	#13
Was just about to post this...but you beat me to it...	YoungDemCA	Dec 2012	#3
I'm listening to it on the local news	me b zola	Dec 2012	#4
I called my youngest just to make sure	Viva_La_Revolution	Dec 2012	#45
Guns, Guns and more Guns.	SoapBox	Dec 2012	#5
Lol! Yep, brace yourselves...	primavera	Dec 2012	#9
LOL	bongbong	Dec 2012	#158
Yep. Wish we could rec posts.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#95
If knives are as easy to use as guns, then	crim son	Dec 2012	#6
No guns = killers will use bombs	lbrtbell	Dec 2012	#42
What we do have in our heads is that he used a gun, not a bomb.	SoapBox	Dec 2012	#44
It takes more effort and more time to build a bomb	ItsTheMediaStupid	Dec 2012	#47
8775 killed with guns. 4 with explosives.	progressoid	Dec 2012	#54
Don't waste your time.	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#67
You mean like what happens in other countries with sensible gun laws?	DanTex	Dec 2012	#62
Kids 7 and 11 threaten woman with loaded gun in neighboring multnomah county.. days apart.	fun n serious	Dec 2012	#114
Jamaica instituted a total ban a few years ago. It is drowning in gun violence as we pontificate.	pop topcan	Dec 2012	#245
I saw Portland and I thought Maine.	MADem	Dec 2012	#7
Every other year? Every few months, unfortunately.	Laurian	Dec 2012	#17
Every couple of weeks, by my count.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#19
I'm talking about a "holiday" shooter... nt	MADem	Dec 2012	#91
Another day, another American explosion	BeyondGeography	Dec 2012	#8
Suspect on the loose after shots fired at Clackamas Town Center kgw.com - 7 minutes ago A masked gun	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#10
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.	maxsolomon	Dec 2012	#11
Collary?	leapinggnome	Dec 2012	#23
yep - fixed	maxsolomon	Dec 2012	#26
I live really close to this mall. The helicopters are out and so are the sirens	neverforget	Dec 2012	#12
I have not found if shooter has been found	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#33
The shooter has been "neutralized" according to the Sheriff's office	neverforget	Dec 2012	#35
Good.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#38
War on Christmas! nt	heliarc	Dec 2012	#14
thankfully, he doesn't seem like much of a shot.	Mel Content	Dec 2012	#15
I've heard two people are dead. I suppose that's okay with you?	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#18
Two is too many, but it could have been a lot worse	ItsTheMediaStupid	Dec 2012	#49
why would you suppose that...?	Mel Content	Dec 2012	#59
No, but I LOVE that it isn't fifty.	aquart	Dec 2012	#78
That is only dead, there are wounded too	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#34
I'm goddamn sick of this.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#16
get used to it: the gun nuts won	Skittles	Dec 2012	#24
sadly accurate	AnOhioan	Dec 2012	#31
That's the truth. The sad, sad truth.	tosh	Dec 2012	#32
I can't accept that.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#55
New norm = fewer shootings and less gun violence.	hack89	Dec 2012	#87
WE??	Skittles	Dec 2012	#111
Well it could be true if he is a doctor.	aandegoons	Dec 2012	#120
We = America as a whole	hack89	Dec 2012	#128
AMERICA is SICK OF YOU FUCKING GUN NUTS	Skittles	Dec 2012	#246
That's nice. Feel better? nt	hack89	Dec 2012	#247
I know I feel worse than YOU do	Skittles	Dec 2012	#248
I have two school age kids	hack89	Dec 2012	#249
This message was self-deleted by its author	hack89	Dec 2012	#127
The crime rate tracks the proportion of young adult males in the population. Nt.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#131
Which indicates the area to look for root causes and real solutions.	hack89	Dec 2012	#140
The point being that regulating, for example, high capacity magazines	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#144
Let remember the lessons of Virginia Tech	hack89	Dec 2012	#146
Oh, thank goodness.	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#137
It is very much is something to be upset about	hack89	Dec 2012	#141
If there were more people armed...	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#36
Gee, what if half the mall was carrying and a total fire fight broke out	ItsTheMediaStupid	Dec 2012	#53
Oh com'on, bullets only kill the bad guys!	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#69
Everyone who advocates that more people carrying firearms would have	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#188
Perhaps you can give us a real-world example or 2, instead of Hollywood ones...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#211
Well, let's see. Ask any vet who's been in a real live fire-fight, where	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#218
Surely you can come up with a real-world example. There are +/- 8 million permit holders...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#224
Here you go, baby-killer:	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#237
"baby-killer", eh? I see the witch hunt has begun...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#238
Oh well, so much for that alert:	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#239
Holy fuck. Vile fucking bigotry against non-criminals certainly seems to be the order of the day.	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#243
DU juries usually get it right. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#251
You have the blood of at least 20 children on your hands. I hope you're	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#240
Yep, just as you have the broken souls of child porn victims on yours.	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#242
+1. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#250
Feh. I've been called worse by better...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#252
Oh the irony.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#149
They're choosing a spokesman as we speak.	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#50
Chosen, and dispatched to the scene: see #87. Typical NRA bullshit being spewed	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#100
This message was self-deleted by its author	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#116
I doubt the NRA runs the FBI, as they are the ones that confirming the declining violent crime rates	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#118
And Gungeon spokesman #2 washes up onto the scene. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#121
I note you do not dispute the accuracy of that, instead choosing to carp about the messenger.	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#170
When the "messenger" is peddling a right-wing NRA line on a progressive, Democratic	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#179
What the hell is "right-wing NRA line" about what he posted?	beevul	Dec 2012	#187
And the swarm is on! #7 in this thread, late to the scene but making up for it with	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#189
Someone has to contrast the antigun ideologues that got here first and almost always do.	beevul	Dec 2012	#197
Translation: "someone has to get the NRA's side of the message out there!!!11"	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#198
Does your worldview allow that theres a such thing as a non-nra pro gun position?	beevul	Dec 2012	#204
"is it simply that anyone thats pro-gun-rights is an an nra stooge?" - well said.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#206
Doubtful: think Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer", or Richard J. Hofstadter's...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#209
LOL!	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#215
"Or will you rely on people with...guns...to make that happen?" Brilliant!	NYC_SKP	Feb 2013	#253
Actually, they got their facts from the FBI-anyone can, at their website	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#212
I recently discovered the Ignore feature on DU.	llmart	Dec 2012	#186
I don't blame you in the least: it's a crying shame we have to put with right-wing NRA talking	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#191
FBI facts - nothing to do with the NRA.	hack89	Dec 2012	#130
Facts are derailing the Two Minutes' Hate, and we can't have that...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#172
Disagreeing with you about gun policy is not a "two minutes hate," sport:	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#176
You blame the NRA; you bash gun owners that had nothing to do with this horrible case...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#203
I wish I could rec your post. N/T	beevul	Dec 2012	#207
"there's one problem with...your opponents...RW plants" - FIFY. Yep. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#208
There are a couple books you should read- they might strike a chord with you.	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#210
"You might not be getting the glorious, gun-free future you envision" - Sure I am: so is the entire	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#214
"What a beautiful world it will be; what a glorious time to be free..."	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#216
Uh-huh.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#217
Interesting; I never knew the validity of an argument depended upon...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#225
Uh-huh.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#227
You'll get many fine explanations, most of them consisting of finely-woven bullshit.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#98
i just heard on the news.	DesertFlower	Dec 2012	#20
Where is Reverend Billy When You Need Him?	triplepoint	Dec 2012	#22
Just heard the shooter has been neutralized from the police spokesman on CNN...	TPaine7	Dec 2012	#25
Shooter is dead according to news conference. n/t	RebelOne	Dec 2012	#61
Portland Local News: - Suspect 'neutralized' after deadly shooting at Clackamas Town Center	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#27
Tis the season for psychotic breaks.	trouble.smith	Dec 2012	#29
'Tis the season to mass murder	kurtzapril4	Dec 2012	#46
The whole year has been the season for psychotic breaks.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#60
I wasn't.	trouble.smith	Dec 2012	#81
I wouldn't	JonLP24	Dec 2012	#184
Multiple wounded.	aquart	Dec 2012	#30
And two dead...	riderinthestorm	Dec 2012	#65
More Gun Fun!	jpak	Dec 2012	#39
Did anyone see Jon Stewart last nite? He asked WHEN is the right time to talk about Gun Control??	jillan	Dec 2012	#40
Yes, that was very well done. Link here.	Electric Monk	Dec 2012	#51
I just saw it this evening.	progressoid	Dec 2012	#56
Interesting Article in Mother Jones	neeksgeek	Dec 2012	#41
Gee, a mall full of people and nobody had another gun to shoot-it-out??111!!!!1	riderinthestorm	Dec 2012	#63
Maybe it's time for mandatory gun ownership.	godai	Dec 2012	#75
Don't they already have that somewhere in Georgia? n/t	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#80
Yes, in Kennesaw. I lived there for about 5 years. All homeowners are required to have a gun.	RebelOne	Dec 2012	#83
I've had it. I'VE HAD IT. I wish we would enact the strictest gun laws in the WORLD.	nolabear	Dec 2012	#64
You know what would have prevented this? More people shooting wildly into a crowded area.	name not needed	Dec 2012	#68
+1,000 - n/t	primavera	Dec 2012	#74
That's bound to happen someday. n/t	godai	Dec 2012	#79
It's the human cost of living with our laws. The death toll of 'Freedom'.	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#70
When the fuck is our government going to step up to the fucking plate here?	47of74	Dec 2012	#71
What? And risk upsetting the NRA and their ilk?	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#77
They will not interfere as long as gun violence is at historic lows and declining.	hack89	Dec 2012	#88
That day is coming, trust me, my friend, as the country turns Blue:	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#102
Speaking of living in a fantasy world...	Dr_Scholl	Dec 2012	#112
Go for it, culture warrior! Demonize a large chunk of the voting population!	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#117
Except, they haven't: the Democratic Party controls the White House and the Senate.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#124
And that explains why gun control was so prominent in the campaign ... oh wait.	hack89	Dec 2012	#166
Keep cutting and pasting your own posts, they're quite convincing...	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#173
Of course they are "quite convincing": the facts have a liberal bias.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#174
I note you do not dispute the accuracy of that, instead choosing to carp about the messenger.	apocalypsehow	Dec 2012	#175
You can not be serious.	beevul	Dec 2012	#192
That's what would happen if the US was a developed nation	primavera	Dec 2012	#177
Why limit it to gun laws.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#147
is it resolved yet?	Liberal_in_LA	Dec 2012	#84
A quick review of the "rules" about when it's okay to discuss gun policy might be in order:	TygrBright	Dec 2012	#85
"Clackistan" Oregon-Tea bagger heaven.	ErikJ	Dec 2012	#89
Clackamas County went Obama	hugo_from_TN	Dec 2012	#92
Yes, 3% margin--but neighboring Multnomah County 75% Obama.	ErikJ	Dec 2012	#96
I live in Clackamas County, actually really close to this mall. This county is a swing county	neverforget	Dec 2012	#97
The most conservative part of the Metro area by far.	ErikJ	Dec 2012	#105
I'm no expert on gun-related issues, but I do know this much:	Brigid	Dec 2012	#94
So what do you suggest?	WinniSkipper	Dec 2012	#222
I thought these things only happened in Colorado and Texas	Rocknrule	Dec 2012	#99
Stand on Zanzibar	Zorro	Dec 2012	#103
Yes, a mucker	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#123
This mass murder kind of kills the NRA meme that an assault	doc03	Dec 2012	#107
Not really.	Dr_Scholl	Dec 2012	#113
Weren't something like sixty rounds fired though?	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#119
Or he could have just carried more magazines.	Dr_Scholl	Dec 2012	#125
Maybe when everyone is armed all the time these sorts of incidents will taper off	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#126
I read somewhere the gun jammed after 50-60? shots. The shooter ran off into a store.	Sunlei	Dec 2012	#213
How you figure that? Maybe he was just a bad shot and if he was limited to a 10 round magazine	doc03	Dec 2012	#162
Just like cho? N/T	beevul	Dec 2012	#193
The Virginia Tech massacre proves that you are wrong	hack89	Dec 2012	#167
I guess I'll be first. My heart goes out to those involved.	flvegan	Dec 2012	#109
It doesn't matter whether it was Portland or Clackamas.	fun n serious	Dec 2012	#115
Hmmm, Unusual	Iggy	Dec 2012	#122
A Thread On This Incident Has Opened In Gun Control/RKBA.....	Paladin	Dec 2012	#129
A thread started by one of your fellow Prohibitionists.	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#138
Like jpak said:	Paladin	Dec 2012	#143
The only difference between a "prohibitionist" and a "fudd" is...	beevul	Dec 2012	#194
Don't Get Me Started About Whitman.	Paladin	Dec 2012	#199
I'll note you characterize my comments as "snotty", not "untrue". N/T	beevul	Dec 2012	#202
Need Some Help, There?	Paladin	Dec 2012	#219
Over in the gungeon they are very concerned.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#132
Does the truth matter?	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#134
You And Your Gun Enthusiast Pals Can't Handle The Truth. (nt)	Paladin	Dec 2012	#135
Intellectual dishonesty at it's best.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#148
in this case technical accuracy is pretty much beside the point.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#142
Well now, that changes everything, doesn't it?	TheCowsCameHome	Dec 2012	#136
A thread started by one of your fellow Prohibitionists.	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#139
And the greek chorus joined in on cue.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#145
This is the most likely scenario for most Dirty Harry wannabes...	onehandle	Dec 2012	#152
This message was self-deleted by its author	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#153
They're always concerned about nomenclature. Such obfuscation helps protect their access to guns.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#154
You heard it here first folks.	beevul	Dec 2012	#195
They are now reporting that the gun jammed????	condoleeza	Dec 2012	#155
modern times are not more dangerous...	Blackhawk44	Dec 2012	#156
Guns make you SAFER!	bongbong	Dec 2012	#159
Clearly a hollow point.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#161
Yes!	bongbong	Dec 2012	#165
"orders"? You truly are paranoid. LOL	hack89	Dec 2012	#168
Not paranoid	bongbong	Dec 2012	#182
I love a good CT	hack89	Dec 2012	#183
LOL	bongbong	Dec 2012	#185
You realize only a tiny fraction of gun owners carry in public?	hack89	Dec 2012	#190
LOL	bongbong	Dec 2012	#228
So what percentage of gun owners carry in public?	hack89	Dec 2012	#230
HO HO HO	bongbong	Dec 2012	#231
You dismissed it - I thought you actual had some evidence	hack89	Dec 2012	#232
Gun nuts	bongbong	Dec 2012	#233
Gun grabbers	hack89	Dec 2012	#234
Keep it up!	bongbong	Dec 2012	#235
I think it funny that proof is not needed to support gun control	hack89	Dec 2012	#236
Still batting .00000	bongbong	Dec 2012	#241
Thats just the tip of the iceberg.	beevul	Dec 2012	#196
LOL	bongbong	Dec 2012	#229
I can only imagine that in their last moments of life, the victims were comforted	LanternWaste	Dec 2012	#169
Updated: 1:45 PM Oregon mall shooter identified; used stolen rifle	Wernothelpless	Dec 2012	#171
Apparently you haven't hear the latest update	Trunk Monkey	Dec 2012	#200
Actually I noticed it was a stolen rifle ...	Wernothelpless	Dec 2012	#220
More martyrs on the second amendment alter.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#178
Thank god he didn't have a bow and arrow.	Remmah2	Dec 2012	#180
No, Hawkeye, Green Arrow, and Robin Hood are the patron saints of the arrow.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#181
Not a proud week for us Portlanders - what can we do?	condoleeza	Dec 2012	#201
I don't text- any other way of contributing?	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#205
Yes, here is a link to her Facebook Support page	condoleeza	Dec 2012	#223
did he just pull the trigger and close his eyes?	underoath	Dec 2012	#221

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