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In reply to the discussion: US Appeals court strikes down Illinois ban on concealed carry [View all]TPaine7
(4,286 posts)17. Yes, finally the truth is being acknowledged:
What we are most pleased about is how the court has recognized that the Second Amendment is just as, if not at times more, important in public as it is in the home, he said. The right of self-defense doesnt end at your front door.
In the opinion, Posner wrote that a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower.
In the opinion, Posner wrote that a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower.
Duh...
The Supreme Court rulings only covered guns in the home because the case before them only related to guns in the home. But nothing in the language of the Second Amendment or in its legal history supports limiting the right to homes.
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Dickless Dirty Harry wannabes celebrate. I expect a bunch of George Zimmermans will be born. nt
onehandle
Dec 2012
#1
Welcome to DU. I appreciate that anti-Fox sentiment, but frankly there is no nexus...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#5
Do you ever venture into the rest of the US--the 40 states that are "shall issue"? n/t
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#12
If you live in Illinois there are already people around you who are carrying concealed firearms...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#20
"they'll almost certainly leave it to the discretion of local law enforcement people"
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#22
I skimmed it very quickly. Does it imply that only an objective system of issuing permits...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#23
So you know all about how the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment explicitly set out to
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#37
Yep, I just agree with the dissenting opinion of the four liberal justices...
primavera
Dec 2012
#38
The thing is, I believed most of what Scalia said before he ever heard of Dick Heller or
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#42
You have as much right to not be around armed people as you have to not be around people
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#21
What does "multiple" or "crowd" have to do with it? Aren't the issues "killing" and "public"?
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#32
But Elliot Ness could not have tried to arrest Frank Nitti in "The Untouchables" if this ruling
winstars
Dec 2012
#15
If I remember right, in the Untouchables, Nitti brought a gun into the courthouse.
hughee99
Dec 2012
#28
Good. I live in Chicago and have been arguing with a friend about this for years.
atufal
Dec 2012
#18
I don't know. Posner is a highly respected jurist, and he is no fan of self-defense.
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#30
I'd like the Illinois legislature to reaffirm their long standing law and tell the Court of Appeals
byeya
Dec 2012
#27
State's rights fan, are you? Do you think California's Proposition 8 is also legit?
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#45