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Common Sense Party

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19. It's a lousy, crappy thing to do, but it's not "theft."
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:07 PM
Dec 2012

This story, as written, is misleading: "money taken out of workers' paychecks"...no, it wasn't.

I do not believe, based on other reports, that Hostess took employee 401(k) deductions out of their paychecks and then diverted that to company expenses. That would be a big time ERISA violation and they'd be in deep guano.

What they did was take corporate profits that had been set aside as future pension contributions and they diverted them to try to keep the company afloat. It's a lousy thing to do, especially since they probably had all the executive bonus money stashed away in a separate, golden lock-box ledger. But it's not criminal. Unethical, slimy, despicable? Yes. Criminal? It's be tough to find a judge that would say it was.

Sure sounds like theft to me. n/t Laurian Dec 2012 #1
It's Fraud. The executives looted their pensions. FreeBC Dec 2012 #2
A law needs to be passed to hang them for this. NO REMEDY? aquart Dec 2012 #3
And...... WAIT For it... Guess WHO gets to pay these worker's pensions Iggy Dec 2012 #4
no, the taxpayers do not fund the PBGC...it's funded by premiums that corporations pay antigop Dec 2012 #5
Been there done that and Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #6
WHY is this not theft? patrice Dec 2012 #7
It's a lousy, crappy thing to do, but it's not "theft." Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #19
Just like back when people fought for the right to organize RedstDem Dec 2012 #8
Breach of contract at the very least Sheepshank Dec 2012 #9
Pension money should be sacred socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #10
And the executives are giving themselves multi-million dollar bonuses as the company dissolves. yardwork Dec 2012 #11
Had to fund executive bonuses from somewhere. Downwinder Dec 2012 #12
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Dec 2012 #13
If there was an agreement that 28 cents of the 30 cents per hour wage rise JDPriestly Dec 2012 #14
I'll take your money and give it to me. What buffoon of a judge can't see through that? Festivito Dec 2012 #15
Why every judge who belongs to the Federalist Society! Joe Bacon Dec 2012 #16
It's not a "maneuver", it's deceit, it's lying, it's fraud. nt bemildred Dec 2012 #17
JPBaker said, "that stuff does happen" Trillo Dec 2012 #18
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