I did find it in one link, but it was STILL only Fleming saying the employee was African-American. (Reply #57)

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Ken Burch (50,254 posts)

57. I did find it in one link, but it was STILL only Fleming saying the employee was African-American.

The fact that all we have is Fleming asserting the race of the employee might partially explain why he's refusing to release the video.

It's in his interest(given the long-standing Southern white obsession with potty purity)to put a black face on the person doing the exclusion.

Bear that in mind.

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88 replies	Author	Time	Post
Fleming: Muslim Couple Left ‘Big Mess’ In My Restaurant [View all]	DonViejo	Dec 2012	OP
Big mess in the bathroom is "code" and was used against the Vietnamese here	kickysnana	Dec 2012	#1
What does that imply?	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2012	#4
That they are dirty, uncivilized people, wink, wink. n/t	kickysnana	Dec 2012	#5
In the Jim Crow era, Dixie whites were obsessed with keeping nonwhites out of their bathrooms.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#7
Um	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2012	#14
I hear you on all of that-only referenced that movie because of the bathroom thing.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#29
The employee was an African-American woman	oberliner	Dec 2012	#44
Was that info in the article?	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#46
It's in this one	oberliner	Dec 2012	#47
OK, but that info wasn't in the link in the OP. And even in your link,	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#48
Yes, it was	oberliner	Dec 2012	#51
I did find it in one link, but it was STILL only Fleming saying the employee was African-American.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#57
I used to stop at this Subway at least twice a week	Fastcars	Dec 2012	#61
OK. You can understand my reasons for suspicion on this.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#84
What difference if the employee was African American?	obamanut2012	Dec 2012	#66
"Dixie whites keeping nonwhites out of the bathroom"	oberliner	Dec 2012	#85
Wouldn't be the first incident of internalizing oppression.	intheflow	Dec 2012	#73
Or maybe her version of what happened is different	oberliner	Dec 2012	#76
Or maybe... they just left a big mess in the bathroom?	RevStPatrick	Dec 2012	#12
There are slobs and there are crazy people but no ethnic group behavior	kickysnana	Dec 2012	#17
If he wasn't lying through his teeth,	JoeyT	Dec 2012	#18
They sure do. Here in Los Angeles, public restrooms are often	kestrel91316	Dec 2012	#33
Not being able to flush used TP is true...but I've never seen it thrown on the floor.	antigone382	Dec 2012	#38
You are lucky. It's a HUGE problem here, and completely inexcusible.	kestrel91316	Dec 2012	#39
It happens daily in my store.	Codeine	Dec 2012	#49
They are filthy because nobody maintains them.n/t	kickysnana	Dec 2012	#54
Not true. I'm talking about stores and businesses where you go in the AM	kestrel91316	Dec 2012	#62
There are plenty of Americans who are unexplainably filthy.	iemitsu	Dec 2012	#70
Not true. People do leave messes all the time.	NYC Liberal	Dec 2012	#53
I've heard that used against Hispanic men	obamanut2012	Dec 2012	#65
Ohhhhhh I see Congressman;	Dyedinthewoolliberal	Dec 2012	#2
Well, we could always just wait and see what the video shows before passing judgement?	cstanleytech	Dec 2012	#22
See below.	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#25
Check post #23 as I acknowledged that there. nt	cstanleytech	Dec 2012	#37
How long should we wait...?	LanternWaste	Dec 2012	#36
Doctoring video isn't as easy as	WeekendWarrior	Dec 2012	#45
+1	lunasun	Dec 2012	#77
Fleming's answer to the question I was wondering...	Enrique	Dec 2012	#3
bazinga!	TeamPooka	Dec 2012	#6
I cant fault that logic to much though you would think if they were lying	cstanleytech	Dec 2012	#23
The mess in the bathroom is Fleming	Smilo	Dec 2012	#8
If the Husains sued, could the presiding judge in the case compel Fleming to release the video? n/t.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#9
Ditto.	SoapBox	Dec 2012	#10
Discovery	lobodons	Dec 2012	#15
If it doesn't get erased first.	Hassin Bin Sober	Dec 2012	#31
well, republicans never lie	rurallib	Dec 2012	#11
Regardless	Roy Rolling	Dec 2012	#13
This message was self-deleted by its author	Magleetis	Dec 2012	#16
The good stuff is deeper in the article	Ash_F	Dec 2012	#19
I Just Want To Know	Caeser67	Dec 2012	#20
Racist Pig	jpak	Dec 2012	#21
The employee was an African-American woman	oberliner	Dec 2012	#43
As if African Americans can't be racist against Muslims.	intheflow	Dec 2012	#74
They certainly could be	oberliner	Dec 2012	#75
If you're just looking for the employee's version, why bring up her race?	intheflow	Dec 2012	#87
Mostly because of some other comments	oberliner	Dec 2012	#88
I wasn't there, so I'm not gonna take sides like so many have	Ter	Dec 2012	#24
I also wonder if a man who owns dozens of restaurants benefits from discriminating...	immoderate	Dec 2012	#28
I doubt it's an official policy among his restaurants.	Bradical79	Dec 2012	#32
you don't send food back at a Subway	CreekDog	Dec 2012	#30
You could sit down and say it didn't taste right	Ter	Dec 2012	#34
No, but I've been tempted to.	Ash_F	Dec 2012	#56
None of that was claimed	oberliner	Dec 2012	#41
Not enough info. Was the waste-basket in the restroom overflowing BEFORE they used it?	patrice	Dec 2012	#26
Read the actual account of what happened	oberliner	Dec 2012	#42
You keep saying that and	Occulus	Dec 2012	#59
Hence, "for what it's worth"	oberliner	Dec 2012	#60
Exactly	obamanut2012	Dec 2012	#67
How can he prove that a videotaped/photographed mess	Lawlbringer	Dec 2012	#27
Hmm, big mess in bathroom...	awoke_in_2003	Dec 2012	#35
An African-American female employee was the one who asked the man to leave	oberliner	Dec 2012	#40
Is it impossible that things went down just as the employee said?	MrSlayer	Dec 2012	#50
okay story could easily be true	JCMach1	Dec 2012	#52
Do non-paying customers have the right to use the bathroom?	oberliner	Dec 2012	#58
I don't believe so but they ended up eating at another subway.	Ash_F	Dec 2012	#68
I don't know if that means they were likely going to order there	oberliner	Dec 2012	#71
Wudu	jberryhill	Dec 2012	#81
Interesting	oberliner	Dec 2012	#83
Video?	proud2BlibKansan	Dec 2012	#55
It seems to me that if the Islamic man washed then went outside	iemitsu	Dec 2012	#63
If it was just before prayer time, then he probably did wudu in the bathroom	jberryhill	Dec 2012	#79
The wife was STILL IN THE BATHROOM	obamanut2012	Dec 2012	#64
And even if the bathrooms were a mess	iemitsu	Dec 2012	#69
let me just say again. ritual washing before prayers	JCMach1	Dec 2012	#72
That's what it sounds like	jberryhill	Dec 2012	#80
This seems reasonable	oberliner	Dec 2012	#86
And what is with those women who stand and piss all over the seat	tavernier	Dec 2012	#78
Yep. It's call 'hovering'.	ronnie624	Dec 2012	#82

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