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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
120. ...Where their leader spoke AGAINST holocaust denial.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:26 AM
Nov 2012
Now maybe I can say that at the discussion of the holocaust, I may be the representative, the voice of the people who died in the holocaust because my grandparents died there. They were killed in Auschwitz. My parents were from Hungary. My father escaped and his parents remained. He wasn’t able to get them out of Hungary and they died in Auschwitz as were other relatives and all the communities that they knew. So to say that they didn’t die, to me you can not say that. I am the living remnant of the people who died in the holocaust and I am here, I believe sent by God, to humbly say, simply to speak to the people here and say, 'you should know that the Jewish people died, and do not try to say that it did not happen. They did die.' There are people throughout the Jewish communities, still alive in their seventies and eighties and every one of them will tell you their stories. It is something which you cannot refute, but that being said, it doesn’t mean that the holocaust is a tool to use to oppress other people."
- Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss


But that doesn't play into your own agenda, of pretending you have some sort of authority to grant or dismiss Jewishness dependent on a person's support for political zionism, does it?
Tough for those who don't like it dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #1
Yeah, if you're watching the UN still, Susan Rice is SHRIEKING right now! Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #2
I'd literally just walked in door dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #5
But the US didn't veto it BainsBane Nov 2012 #50
It wasn't subject to a veto - that's why. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #60
We have no veto in the UNGA, we voted against it. nt bemildred Nov 2012 #61
Thanks BainsBane Nov 2012 #62
There is no veto of a General Assembly vote. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #72
No kidding, she was literally SHRIEKING. Men can shriek. Women can shriek. She was SHRIEKING. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #73
This I assume which is already up on Youtube for posterity. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #86
speaking into a microphone, but still had to yell.. that takes talent Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #96
Nobody who has ever been the target of shrieking would call this shrieking. ieoeja Nov 2012 #138
didn't score many points on that one PatrynXX Nov 2012 #71
K&R & Next step? nt patrice Nov 2012 #3
Haul both their asses back to the negotiating table with the newly-added stick that... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #4
Netanyahu wish it, to "beat off the extremely right-wing elements"? LOL, I seriously doubt it. nt MH1 Nov 2012 #84
LOL, I know. Just enunciating that he's got a choice. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #139
he is those elements. yurbud Nov 2012 #136
To stop the apartheid Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #6
Apartheid to Some USMCMustang Nov 2012 #19
I know it's not what you meant...but ironically yes, that is the precise definition of apartheid.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #22
Apartheid to anyone who knows what Apartheid is. Ash_F Nov 2012 #37
Because the Apartheid South African Government Samjm Nov 2012 #101
Pretty sure that's not it Ash_F Nov 2012 #130
Yes, I clearly remember when being a bigot went out of fashion in the very early 1990's, hughee99 Nov 2012 #135
If I take you implication to be correct, that is literally as a bad as the "states rights" people... Ash_F Nov 2012 #137
A pretty gross argument to make? hughee99 Nov 2012 #142
That argument does not line up with the timeline of events. Ash_F Nov 2012 #150
What??? hughee99 Nov 2012 #151
Yes, I agree with you 100% Samjm Nov 2012 #155
It's Aparthied libodem Nov 2012 #83
+1000 DeSwiss Nov 2012 #38
this move shakes up the status quo, slightly Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #13
Bibi "moderate"??? Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2012 #21
you missed my point Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #25
Good question atreides1 Nov 2012 #17
maybe the Arab states could increase funding dlwickham Nov 2012 #64
Arab states provide more funding? That is funny. former9thward Nov 2012 #78
+1 n/t JudyM Nov 2012 #115
"The Arab states treat the Palestinians like shit." - But they don't bomb them or steal their stuff Scootaloo Nov 2012 #118
No its not Jordan and Lebanon. former9thward Nov 2012 #134
Didn't Egypt and Jordan occupy Palestine before Israel took over the occupation? ieoeja Nov 2012 #144
All good points. former9thward Nov 2012 #147
Well, considering the 2000 "offer" forbade any right of return to the Palestinian "state..." Scootaloo Nov 2012 #156
I'll trust Bill Clinton on the subject more than you. former9thward Nov 2012 #157
I'd suggest some research Scootaloo Nov 2012 #159
Unconditional right of return will never happen hack89 Dec 2012 #174
The Myth of the Generous Offer - Distorting the Camp David negotiations By Seth Ackerman Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #168
The Chief Israeli negotiator and Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo ben-Ami said that he would have Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #169
+2 madrchsod Dec 2012 #177
israel has internal problems that will have to be dealt with. madrchsod Dec 2012 #178
I don't see peace on the horizon with current Israeli attitudes cpwm17 Dec 2012 #179
"the Arab states" are in no position to act independent of US policy.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #102
Congratulations! Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2012 #7
Rice is embarrassing herself LittleBlue Nov 2012 #8
Her true colors are shining through. Not just about this issue, but about who she is as a person.nt Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #11
so are yours, pal. MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #34
LOL, my NINE years of posts here versus your...LOL...your, what again? Flimsy quip? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #36
Are you kidding? Just because Rice is under attack by the Repubs doesn't mean Chemisse Nov 2012 #75
They were apparent a long time ago. I was amazed to see how few remembered the polarizing sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #42
If you think this is about Rice BainsBane Nov 2012 #52
Rice is just holding the policy line, actually Scootaloo Nov 2012 #119
I really liked Susan Rice during the first Obama campaign... bunnies Nov 2012 #12
You might as well say you don't like Obama BainsBane Nov 2012 #53
I can't imagine what the Republicans have against her, she articulates business-as-usual just fine.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #18
The Rs are just 2naSalit Nov 2012 #30
I can't tell the difference between her speech and those of Bush's cronies LittleBlue Nov 2012 #33
This is her, she was always like this. I wonder why so few remembered why the Left always had sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #45
This is US policy BainsBane Nov 2012 #55
This is the best morality litmus test I know cpwm17 Nov 2012 #70
The Republicans hate her King_David Nov 2012 #47
Just another reason to not consider her as SOS, IMO. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #48
And what Ambassador to the UN would do anything different? BainsBane Nov 2012 #58
You're right, her ancestors ARE.... ReRe Nov 2012 #76
A question quakerboy Nov 2012 #153
Good. They deserve to have access to the ICC. bunnies Nov 2012 #9
expected but still excellent news stupidicus Nov 2012 #10
Caught this beautiful picture on Haaretz just a few minutes ago: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #14
Omg thats so awesome!! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #23
Yes Jewish people want all that , however that pictured misguided Jew from King_David Nov 2012 #49
Maybe they just want to make peace? darkangel218 Nov 2012 #54
Who are you to label and value or devalue Jews? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #57
Should be obvious shouldn't it? He is da KING! :P nt Bodhi BloodWave Nov 2012 #68
That group , The Naturei Karta King_David Nov 2012 #82
He's right leftynyc Nov 2012 #127
...Where their leader spoke AGAINST holocaust denial. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #120
I'm not a religious Jew, but who are to discount them? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #161
Who am I ? King_David Dec 2012 #163
Great photo! Spazito Nov 2012 #24
Awesome, good for him. Ash_F Nov 2012 #40
I don't see a link on YouTube yet. You HAVE to see the video. She's like shriek-growling. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #41
Here it is (video of Rice) subsuelo Nov 2012 #79
That is beautiful! I wish them peace, both the people of Palestine and the people of Israel. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #59
He has nothing to do with the people of Israel, King_David Dec 2012 #160
Good for him! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #65
He is not Israeli, King_David Dec 2012 #162
I wanna shake that guy's hand! Harry_Scrote Nov 2012 #141
This person is from Neturei Karta harrose Nov 2012 #152
sigh... Marrah_G Dec 2012 #176
K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #15
It's a start. AzDar Nov 2012 #16
See also: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #20
and so it begins K&R azurnoir Nov 2012 #26
this is a good day....a very, very good day Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #27
yes it is indeed n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #28
+1 darkangel218 Nov 2012 #31
In my lifetime...literally...since my birth year. I'm very proud of the UN. libdem4life Nov 2012 #29
just an eversoslight 2naSalit Nov 2012 #35
Hopefully also in my lifetime, in spite of our so-called leaders. libdem4life Nov 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Nov 2012 #44
Indeed. 2naSalit Nov 2012 #63
that's giving credit where it's squarely not due--most of Europe abstained Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #113
You are correct as to voting meaning Western Europe. The abstentions beat Nays. libdem4life Nov 2012 #114
I wish them well, and I hope it works out. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #32
Excellent news..... AnOhioan Nov 2012 #43
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2012 #46
+1! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #56
Countries who voted no... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #51
I love it! polly7 Nov 2012 #66
White Phosphorus KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #67
Well it's about time magical thyme Nov 2012 #69
I sincerely hope that this is the light at the end of the tunnel LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #74
woo hoo libodem Nov 2012 #77
What a shame. unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #80
Blah, blah, blaaaaah KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #85
Clever riposte. unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #88
Um, bottle rockets vs the US nuclear arsenal. It's wearing thin. libdem4life Nov 2012 #89
Have you gone through the looking glass? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #92
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a RW shill. unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #93
It's time you realize leftynyc Nov 2012 #129
Was it useless during partition? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #165
I don't really care if it's a minority position. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #175
You're beautifully and stunningly full of shit; here's why Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #106
thank you - brilliant response Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #112
+1. nt bemildred Nov 2012 #132
Could you maybe shoe a few more blather-points into your Gish Gallop? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #121
It changes nothing leftynyc Nov 2012 #128
"Israel just can't win." Ash_F Nov 2012 #131
I disagree booley Nov 2012 #154
What an incredibly stupid post. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #164
The 9 'no' votes godai Nov 2012 #81
Wasn't that the coalition of the willing? AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #94
K&R ReRe Nov 2012 #87
Hope for two states....PRICELESS. From Abbas: Jefferson23 Nov 2012 #90
I'm going to get banned for this and I don't care AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #91
Woa! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #95
Combined with this horse manure from our nation AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #98
Also AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #105
Please don't generalize. It's unproductive. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #166
Look at my post #105 AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #170
Got it. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #171
You were dead on though AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #172
We've all been there. We're human. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #173
lol@Susan Rice trying to attract GOP'ers by seeming super-pissed off Welcome_hubby Nov 2012 #97
I'm trying to find video of her about this AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #99
look above to dipsydoodle's post #86.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #103
Many thanks! AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #104
no problem Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #107
Such Good News NeoBergie Nov 2012 #100
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #108
Can Palastinians have their country back now? nt and-justice-for-all Nov 2012 #109
Well, I'm glad that's settled. Now we finally know the borders! Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #110
Now Israel cant stop humanitarian aid to Palestine anymore darkangel218 Nov 2012 #111
what new priviliges? Blackhawk44 Nov 2012 #116
Yes, now they could join the ICC ( International Criminal Court ) if they wanted to darkangel218 Nov 2012 #124
knr again Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #117
it's about time nydem14499rsgx Nov 2012 #122
138 + 9 + 41 + 3 = 191 Hosnon Nov 2012 #123
Largely symbolic? CrawlingChaos Nov 2012 #125
I saw the same thing (probably the same interview) with him on... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #140
Palestinian National Initiative Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #167
Since it is impossible to get to an actual "two-state solution" from here cpwm17 Nov 2012 #126
Good. Direct negotiations have failed for years. UN involvement has been sorely needed. n/t Pryderi Nov 2012 #133
Waiting for the angry chorus Harry_Scrote Nov 2012 #143
"The Czech Republic was unique in Europe, joining the United States, Israel, Canada, Panama..." Fearless Nov 2012 #145
Brownie points? dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #148
Now that pun Israel. Fearless Nov 2012 #149
There are 2 types of people in Israel. Great Caesars Ghost Nov 2012 #146
I think it's a step forward adieu Nov 2012 #158
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