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Squinch

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23. It's not mindless bashing.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

By the vast majority of studies done so far, the charters average lower achievement than the public schools.

But charters are allowed to cherry pick their students. Where I live and in most other places charters don't accept, or quickly get rid of, any students who have learning issues, behavioral issues, or physical issues. With those children out of the averages, they ought to be blowing the doors off the public schools. But they are not. They are underperforming in the aggregate.

The problem, too, is that charters are sold very hard to the parents and neighborhoods. It is only after the corporation takes over the neighborhood school that the parents learn that their learning disabled kids are now not going to be accepted by the charter, and are going to have to be bussed to another neighborhood. Or, if their child is accepted, the charter school does not have to comply with the same standards as the public school, and they have no recourse if they don't like how their children are treated or taught.

Education should not be a corporate enterprise. We've seen what that has done in higher education. Why would we think it should be different at younger levels?

This is a bill of goods.

You seem to think it is a possibly nice alternative to public school. Please look VERY VERY carefully before you submit your child to a charter school.

Surprise, surprise, surprise DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #1
I love Obama on most issues, but not on this one. He supports and pushes charters and seems Squinch Nov 2012 #3
I'm with you on this one Squinch. iemitsu Nov 2012 #10
+10000! Fearless Nov 2012 #29
In Florida, 89% of public schools reported failure to meet AYP in 2010-2011 NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #2
According to that link, Alabama is vastly outperforming New Jersey. Uhhhh....yeah, right. Squinch Nov 2012 #22
The entire education reform scam sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #4
And about one in six non-charter schools are in the bottom 15%, too! Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #5
Yep. People don't seem to understand statistics very well. wildeyed Nov 2012 #14
It's not mindless bashing. Squinch Nov 2012 #23
Hahaha! Too late. wildeyed Nov 2012 #30
How long have your children been attending their charters? Squinch Nov 2012 #31
Oldest for four years, youngest for three. n/t wildeyed Nov 2012 #32
My kids go to a charter school and we're very happy with it. Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #35
good. close them. Public schools were one of the best things about this country. Remember? robinlynne Nov 2012 #6
What about the good charter schools? hack89 Nov 2012 #18
In most places they don't have to meet the standards, so how would you know? Squinch Nov 2012 #24
Because my state has a model charter school law and excellent charter schools hack89 Nov 2012 #26
That must be very nice. It's also pretty rare. Squinch Nov 2012 #27
I agree more states need to be like RI. nt hack89 Nov 2012 #28
Good NickP Nov 2012 #7
Like France USMCMustang Nov 2012 #8
What Is Never Discussed Regarding Education USMCMustang Nov 2012 #9
Hey guys I have a great idea! Ash_F Nov 2012 #11
Arne Duncan is that you? Hi Arne! byeya Nov 2012 #12
The smiley does have similar teeth. Ash_F Nov 2012 #13
LOL byeya Nov 2012 #16
There weren't any "standards" when I went to school. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #19
Your post is awesome, JD. ChazII Nov 2012 #20
Every year I read about charter schools that close up without notice. Archae Nov 2012 #15
where I live, there are plenty of public schools that should be closed for the same reason. olddad56 Nov 2012 #17
The people who are opposed to charter schools know that. They just hate charter schools. slackmaster Nov 2012 #21
Where I live, when a public school does not perform for three years, the school is "closed," the Squinch Nov 2012 #25
It varies from state to state. wildeyed Nov 2012 #33
My daughter is a teacher in a charter school in South Florida. RebelOne Nov 2012 #34
The country is catching on to how good charters can be. Someday DU-ers will, too! Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #36
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