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Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
59. Foreign and domestic.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:58 PM
Nov 2012
In your scenario where we're serving as soldiers in an emergency - wouldn't that assume our own army has been defeated, otherwise seriously engaged, or pushed back to such a degree that whatever weaponry they had would mow a militia down? Witness what our firepower in Iraq and Afghanistan and further assume that whatever enemy was attacking us wouldn't have the same kind of restraint our own military has in foreign ventures. I don't think infantry armed with small arms would do much good. I could be wrong, though.

Note that the militia was to be able to defend against threats both foreign and domestic.

Note also that the United States, despite its technological superiority, has won virtually no major military campaigns in the last 70 years.
It may be a factor. New Town is on the reservation, and the reservation has been hit hard by the Brickbat Nov 2012 #1
Guns and ammunition in the hands of the public is a stupendously bad idea. Loudly Nov 2012 #2
Yes, only government employees should have guns and ammunition slackmaster Nov 2012 #3
Planning to go to war with your government? Loudly Nov 2012 #4
Planning to protect myself because I know I can't count on government to do it for me slackmaster Nov 2012 #5
Grandma and three grandchildren were exceedingly insecure. Loudly Nov 2012 #8
They were insecure because a crazed lunatic decided to kill them for some weird reason slackmaster Nov 2012 #10
He chose a gun for its convenience. Loudly Nov 2012 #14
You're making DU suck. slackmaster Nov 2012 #15
No gun, no multiple homicide? glacierbay Nov 2012 #16
You have noticed defacto7 Nov 2012 #27
True glacierbay Nov 2012 #31
you don't need a gun to commit mass murder AlbertCat Nov 2012 #41
No denying that. glacierbay Nov 2012 #43
But you may have missed MY point... defacto7 Nov 2012 #75
Happy Land? Bath? dmallind Nov 2012 #47
what's Appomattox? samsingh Nov 2012 #32
Not true. glacierbay Nov 2012 #38
Seriously? glacierbay Nov 2012 #40
i thought this was referring to something more recent that i may have missed. samsingh Nov 2012 #63
We're guaranteed the right to bear arms AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #21
you're clearly intelligent samsingh Nov 2012 #34
And what makes you think that this army will fire on american citizens? glacierbay Nov 2012 #39
If the citizens are armed AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #50
we're clearly not on the same page. samsingh Nov 2012 #62
Libya and Syria would beg to disagree. PavePusher Nov 2012 #69
Libya and Syria AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #72
Well, I've already pointed you in the right research direction in post #68... PavePusher Nov 2012 #74
It doesn't matter. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #35
I agree AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #46
Foreign and domestic. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #59
Glacierbay and I were discussing that AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #61
Precisely. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #67
Our military currently has a few hundred thousand people (maybe 300-350K) as direct combatants. PavePusher Nov 2012 #70
Here glacierbay Nov 2012 #37
Okay AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #49
Agreed. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #51
We're guaranteed the right to bear arms AlbertCat Nov 2012 #42
Again, that's why I said we're guaranteed the right to bear arms AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #48
You need to read up on assymetrical warfare. PavePusher Nov 2012 #68
Thanks! AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #73
You keep pushing that ridiculous meme Shares. glacierbay Nov 2012 #6
Yes, such a tragedy. Loudly Nov 2012 #9
Whatever. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #12
It is, however, still the law. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #33
i don't see those words in the Constitution: military-grade small arms appropriate for military use samsingh Nov 2012 #36
Well to be fair AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #52
You can buy a tank glacierbay Nov 2012 #55
Wow AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #57
Nice choice glacierbay Nov 2012 #58
nice looking machine samsingh Nov 2012 #65
good point samsingh Nov 2012 #64
It is obvious. Let us take a look at the second amendment: Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #60
And might I add AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #54
the Upper Midwest has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the country. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Odin2005 Nov 2012 #30
a lot of people in rural areas depend on guns and ammunition magical thyme Nov 2012 #66
Whatever the details, it probably comes down to a mentally ill person taking stuff too seriously slackmaster Nov 2012 #7
...a mentally ill person with a firearm taking stuff too seriously. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #11
Would you feel better if he had beaten them to death with a baseball bat? slackmaster Nov 2012 #13
Well at the very least 3 of these people would feel a lot better. geomon666 Nov 2012 #17
Not necessarily glacierbay Nov 2012 #19
Are you saying it wouldn't have been possible to kill an elderly woman and three children... slackmaster Nov 2012 #20
Well I don't know how the scenario goes in your mind geomon666 Nov 2012 #22
One blow to the head with a baseball bat will kill a human. glacierbay Nov 2012 #23
Yeah but what's more likely? geomon666 Nov 2012 #24
So it's okay to kill one? Remmah2 Nov 2012 #25
You think a gun is silent? PavePusher Nov 2012 #71
"You don't need a gun to commit multiple murders"....but it sure helps. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #44
Yes it does glacierbay Nov 2012 #45
Oh my... SoapBox Nov 2012 #18
He's certainly mopping up the floor. Remmah2 Nov 2012 #26
OMG! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #29
... cntrfthrs Nov 2012 #53
Thanks for that info glacierbay Nov 2012 #56
On the one hand, with so many guns in this country there's no realistic, feasible way to get rid of nomorenomore08 Nov 2012 #76
And right on cue, our "pro gun progressives"* rush in to exploit this bloodpath to pimp on apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #77
Talk about someone rushing in to start with the insults glacierbay Nov 2012 #80
People who turn every thread about a shooting into a "gun" thread make DU suck slackmaster Nov 2012 #81
One of the young women who works at my local coffee shop is from Mandan dflprincess Nov 2012 #78
"... there are several women who have disappeared." mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2012 #79
Follow-up to the Sidney, Montana, attempted kidnapping and murder in January 2012 mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2014 #82
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