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71. Resident of a state/commonwealth vs. Resident of a country

Reply to rachel1 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:37 PM

Nov 2012

I think they are two different things. One can be an "undocumented immigrant" and still be a resident of a state.

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Immigrants to Pay Tuition at Rate Set for Residents [View all] rachel1 Nov 2012 OP

Go Massachusetts...another accomplishment by our recently re-elected President for All People. libdem4life Nov 2012 #1

If they are here illegally then how can they prove they have lived in the state? lalalu Nov 2012 #2

It doesn't matter. If they're here then they ought to be eligble for in-state tuition. rachel1 Nov 2012 #3

Not so fast. The difference in costs between in-state and out-of-state are enormous. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #6

This is not about winning votes Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #53

Its the rare, very rare, politician that's altruistic. 99% of them are chasing votes riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #78

His intentions are irrelevent Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #80

Likely they will have to have graduated from roody Nov 2012 #81

That is not how it works. lalalu Nov 2012 #9

This is NOT true. You do NOT have to "present federal and state tax returns." MADem Nov 2012 #18

You are wrong. lalalu Nov 2012 #21

Nice try. No cigar. That's the "form" that the Governor Patrick CHANGED. MADem Nov 2012 #30

You really get the "Duh" reward yourself. lalalu Nov 2012 #35

Look -- you are just dead wrong on this. Give it up. MADem Nov 2012 #67

WTF?! didact Nov 2012 #62

DUH....how about a MA high school diploma? MADem Nov 2012 #19

It is becoming more obvious lalalu Nov 2012 #24

I've provided a link proving you wrong--from the MA government itself. MADem Nov 2012 #25

LOL, keep posting it. lalalu Nov 2012 #29

What do "parents" have to do with an 18 year old (adult) student? MADem Nov 2012 #34

Wow, so you also do not file income taxes. lalalu Nov 2012 #36

The cut off is 24 for FINANCIAL AID. Stop confusing TUITION with FINANCIAL AID. MADem Nov 2012 #43

This is my final response to you. lalalu Nov 2012 #48

Well, joy in the morning--that has NOTHING TO DO WITH TUITION, and it has MADem Nov 2012 #56

Your conflating tuition rates and financial aid tammywammy Nov 2012 #59

What part of the following do you not understand? lalalu Nov 2012 #60

There you go again! Colleges and universities "allow dependency" for the purposes of FINANCIAL AID MADem Nov 2012 #65

High School diploma and school records will show it treestar Nov 2012 #32

No that is not the law. lalalu Nov 2012 #39

This is not true in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. MADem Nov 2012 #44

If they require parents to prove they lived in MA treestar Nov 2012 #46

This isn't about a break for them. lalalu Nov 2012 #49

No it is only about being a resident treestar Nov 2012 #73

It is about proving residency in order to get in state tuition. lalalu Nov 2012 #77

The parents don't even have to get involved. The student can produce two documents, MADem Nov 2012 #66

Lots of undocumented workers roody Nov 2012 #82

How nice of Massachussetts. Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #4

I agree with letting them attend - but with out-of-state tuition panAmerican Nov 2012 #5

Not against letting them attend college, Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #7

It's a nice idea, but there wouldn't be reciprocation in many instances panAmerican Nov 2012 #8

My point isn't about whether another state will grant MA students in state rates. Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #11

Would you then agree that anyone smoking pot --either medical MJ or recreationally in the states MADem Nov 2012 #15

You must not have attended college or have a child in college. lalalu Nov 2012 #23

You are wrong on EVERY count. Try clicking on the link I provided to you, so you do not MADem Nov 2012 #26

Your own link proves you wrong. lalalu Nov 2012 #27

The unemancipated person is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. MADem Nov 2012 #37

LMAO, most students are dependents and lalalu Nov 2012 #38

Emancipation is only possible for those under 18. treestar Nov 2012 #47

That is not true. lalalu Nov 2012 #61

Stop confusing FINANCIAL AID with TUITION. They are not the same thing. nt MADem Nov 2012 #68

The term emancipation does not apply to people who are already adults treestar Nov 2012 #74

Most students are over 18, and therefore, emancipated adults in the eyes of the law. MADem Nov 2012 #50

lalalulu is actually claiming people remain minors treestar Nov 2012 #75

No, just that some of you have minor intelligence. lalalu Nov 2012 #76

The poster is being deliberately obstreperous, I believe. MADem Nov 2012 #79

If they were giving in-state rates to out-of-state illegal immigrants, but not to NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #64

Oat of them are Americans. roody Nov 2012 #83

People who live in the state, who shop in the stores and pay sales tax, who MADem Nov 2012 #84

Agree lalalu Nov 2012 #10

How about a high school diploma from a Massachusetts public school? nt MADem Nov 2012 #13

That is not enough. lalalu Nov 2012 #14

You're not accurate, there. You're way off the mark, in fact. MADem Nov 2012 #16

See post 16. A utility bill and a MA high school diploma will get you in the door. nt MADem Nov 2012 #17

No it will not. lalalu Nov 2012 #22

You plainly don't know what it means--how many college students are under 18, hmmmmm? MADem Nov 2012 #28

So now you claim all illegal immigrant students are lalalu Nov 2012 #31

Bullshit. All "emancipated" means is that a minor is able to enter into a contract. MADem Nov 2012 #40

Emancipated does not mean that and I have shown you lalalu Nov 2012 #42

You have shown me that facts mean nothing to you, and that you are unwilling to learn even when MADem Nov 2012 #51

They are "residents" of Massachusetts. MADem Nov 2012 #12

States give residents lower tuition because their income and sales taxes help support the school Orangepeel Nov 2012 #20

They were brought to the US as children treestar Nov 2012 #33

They've resided in the state most of their lives. MADem Nov 2012 #41

Exactly treestar Nov 2012 #45

I have no problem with what the governor is doing in support of these kids. MADem Nov 2012 #54

The point is that STATE TAXPAYERS get lower in-state rates. Xithras Nov 2012 #86

Back in the early 90s when I was about to attend college WilmywoodNCparalegal Nov 2012 #52

Now see, I disagree with you-- you should have been given the in state rate, assuming MADem Nov 2012 #55

As a minor, I had no options either WilmywoodNCparalegal Nov 2012 #57

You had legal standing--and your parents had the option to apply for citizenship MADem Nov 2012 #63

You are wrong on a few counts WilmywoodNCparalegal Nov 2012 #85

I'm a bit disgusted at your comments, frankly. You ARE "blaming the kids" if you don't realize that MADem Nov 2012 #87

You can sure tell that Massachusetts is a Democratic state by this. The wave of ALEC-inspired state pampango Nov 2012 #58

These children did nothing wrong. They are part of our community. MADem Nov 2012 #69

Good points. Conservatives don't want any move towards legalization because it removes pampango Nov 2012 #72

Education brings prosperity and opportunity to the population as a whole Politicub Nov 2012 #70

Resident of a state/commonwealth vs. Resident of a country marshall Nov 2012 #71