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34. This is what the CEO and banksters had in mind

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:02 PM

Nov 2012

from day one imho. Force the union to go on strike and then claim it must go into bankruptcy. Edited to add: Actually they made crappy unheathy products and on purpose too. They didn't keep up with what the public wants. The employees only did what they were told.

These greedy thieving bxstards wanted deals, and to break the unions and to force the costs on to taxpayers. If the USA could just deport/outsource the Wall St financial sector to China the USA would be better served. They connive on ways to make money while doing nothing that is productive or beneficial except to those in their own little club.

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Pabst Owner Metropoulos Considers Bid for Hostess Brands [View all] octoberlib Nov 2012 OP

PBR and Twinkies - two great tastes that go great together! backscatter712 Nov 2012 #1

I know, right? I thought the same thing nt octoberlib Nov 2012 #2

Ha Ha. I remember those days well. CIrca 1966. Chipper Chat Nov 2012 #78

Undrinkable beer targeted to hipsters LTR Nov 2012 #6

Hipsters? Times have changed!! MADem Nov 2012 #41

does that guy do any songs about Twinkies? Enrique Nov 2012 #76

eeek! AlecBGreen Nov 2012 #66

so you don't like Heineken, and you do like PBR... Enrique Nov 2012 #77

Let me tell you about Heineken jmowreader Nov 2012 #92

Heineken is drinkable AlecBGreen Nov 2012 #93

INORITE! MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #102

18-packs of PBR were on sale at the Rite Aid last week mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2012 #107

maybe they buy the right to the Twinkie and change thename of the beer to Pabst Blue Twinkie Beer. olddad56 Nov 2012 #32

They are great to dunk. Mmm. Kablooie Nov 2012 #83

My red neck, white socks, and Blue Ribbon ... Ding Dongs! Eagle_Eye Nov 2012 #3

Bumble Bee Tuna sandwich for lunch, Chef Boyardee Ravioli for dinner, PBR to wash it all down thelordofhell Nov 2012 #4

Fried egg sandwich on white bread, and wash it down with a PBR Eagle_Eye Nov 2012 #61

“Shedding the complications of the unions . . " niyad Nov 2012 #5

Well how convenient. glinda Nov 2012 #8

I cannot blame Pabst for making a business decision. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #12

What a bunch of bull in your post Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #22

How so? Pabst isnt the one that forced Hostess under is it? cstanleytech Nov 2012 #26

It is not the Pabst part of your post that is bull It is the last part. Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #42

That part is based purely on what I have read which is that cstanleytech Nov 2012 #45

What part of my post was conjecture?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #46

My bad, how about we replace conjecture with innuendo? cstanleytech Nov 2012 #48

Then what part of my post was innuendo?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #49

How about we start with where you said cstanleytech Nov 2012 #50

How about we start at the beginning of my post and work our way to the end?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #52

We we can if we ignore that the question you asked was "Then what part of my post was innuendo??" cstanleytech Nov 2012 #62

You were complaining because you needed more facts Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #65

No, I was pointing out that we lack access to things like say internal emails that prove that this cstanleytech Nov 2012 #71

But you had no problem saying that the workers torpedoed the company Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #73

Actually I am willing to amend that part somewhat. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #81

92% rejected it Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #82

Maybe you should read this Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Nov 2012 #88

See my reply to smccarter then. nt cstanleytech Nov 2012 #91

I read it and you did not address my questions .... now would be a good time Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #94

You mean the question you started by maturely insulting me? Well gee I wonder why cstanleytech Nov 2012 #96

I mean the other ones Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #97

Link it then and I will give it a shot assuming its an actual question and not just more opinion. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #100

You can look through the thread and answer the questions as asked Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #101

You were the one that claimed I avoided answering a question so please have cstanleytech Nov 2012 #104

Start with post #42 and go from there Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #105

I asked you for evidence though, you provided opinion pieces that had alot of speculation instead. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #106

I listed facts ...... not my opinion Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #108

It appeared to me that you were blaming Pabst but maybe I misunderstood in cstanleytech Nov 2012 #109

How about we start over?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #110

I do agree completely that the raises they got made no fiscal sense for a company cstanleytech Nov 2012 #111

Here ya go smccarter Nov 2012 #84

I clicked it so what part of it do you want me to focus on? cstanleytech Nov 2012 #90

+1000 Katashi_itto Nov 2012 #60

The union didn't cause this. They are just a handy scapegoat. n/t eggplant Nov 2012 #27

I will repost part of a question I posted a few days ago over this thing for you or cstanleytech Nov 2012 #30

All indications were that Hostess was going under anyway. Ash_F Nov 2012 #51

You're assuming they are selling brick and mortar assets...these are just brands/products... hexola Nov 2012 #63

que? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #75

The union had nothing to do with it MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #103

Yep , this is what it's all about - vulture capitalism in it's bare form. myrna minx Nov 2012 #15

Just a new paint job..minus the union, less benefits for workers, more $$ for CEO's crunch60 Nov 2012 #23

Pabst is still union hexola Nov 2012 #64

Says it right on the can. svpadgham Nov 2012 #67

Yeah, I caught that, too theHandpuppet Nov 2012 #72

Private equity... I'm sure that will end well high density Nov 2012 #7

It's the new bankruptcy scam. Well not so new, Romney has been doing it for quite a while. crunch60 Nov 2012 #24

This just makes me sick! femrap Nov 2012 #9

Less pay, higher health costs, no pension - and yet - tons of idiots on yahoo/aol/local news sites.. Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #13

I had to femrap Nov 2012 #19

yes! too many don't believe this is perfectly legal, and incredibly sleazy! How long before Mitt Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #57

femrap, can you support that though with numbers? cstanleytech Nov 2012 #16

I suggest you femrap Nov 2012 #18

In addition to femrap's post, may I provide: myrna minx Nov 2012 #21

The problem which you are ignoring is cstanleytech Nov 2012 #25

Big companies have been "softening" up workers over the years, to accept less and less crunch60 Nov 2012 #29

Many times taxpayers are rewarding them with economic development dollars Cynicus Emeritus Nov 2012 #37

There was a femrap Nov 2012 #53

Read my post carefully, I did not say employees are soft . It has taken a while for crunch60 Nov 2012 #59

I understand your point.... femrap Nov 2012 #86

That's what I mean, little by little so we didn't notice, OWS is our hope for positive change, crunch60 Nov 2012 #89

Everyone should have to watch this femrap Nov 2012 #98

The young female worker said in one hour, she can make 1/2 yen=.06. Terrible crunch60 Nov 2012 #99

Private equity firm that owns Pabst Blue Ribbon brewing wants to buy Hostess? wonderful.... not! Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #10

Thanks for femrap Nov 2012 #20

ha! thanks. had to make it. Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #58

Twinkies will suddenly become ironic obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #11

When I was a kid, our BIG treat was once a week when, on Friday nights, our family would kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #14

I think we all know how this ends. bluedigger Nov 2012 #17

I believe your post about sums it all up. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #28

Employees have invested their lives Cynicus Emeritus Nov 2012 #35

I hope someone saves these brands Dr_Scholl Nov 2012 #31

“Shedding the complications of the unions" Fearless Nov 2012 #33

This is what the CEO and banksters had in mind Cynicus Emeritus Nov 2012 #34

Thats certainly possible Cynicus but without access to all the emails cstanleytech Nov 2012 #36

If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it is unlikely to be a turtle. nt AdHocSolver Nov 2012 #43

Unless of course its hunting season in which cause it might be unwise to assume its a duck cstanleytech Nov 2012 #44

Where have you been for the last 20 years? Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #69

Do you think the Teamsters were wrong to agree to the contract? WinniSkipper Nov 2012 #70

A majority of the Teamster members voted for it so it not wrong Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #74

Agree WinniSkipper Nov 2012 #87

I agree DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #80

The hipster ho-ho crowd will be pleased Blue Owl Nov 2012 #38

Yes, save my Wonder Smart!!!! Beacool Nov 2012 #39

ehhh. Fuck.... you.... Ed Suspicious Nov 2012 #40

“Shedding the complications of the unions and old plants makes it even more attractive.” mulsh Nov 2012 #47

But - as far as I can tell, Pabst is still a union made beer... hexola Nov 2012 #56

Bumble Bee Tuna Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #54

Isn't Pabst still a union beer? hexola Nov 2012 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #68

Who wants these twinkies? valerief Nov 2012 #79

Metropoulos seems not to have looked at this very close jmowreader Nov 2012 #95