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rizlaplus

(159 posts)
50. Apparently there was a foetal heartbeat but Savita had a beating heart too
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:39 AM
Nov 2012

Disgusting. The Irish Prime Minister did promise the Roman Catholic lobby that he would never legislate for abortion nor for the X case.

The X case.

The X case involved a fourteen year old girl who had been raped by a neighbour and became pregnant. X told her mother of suicidal thoughts because of the unwanted pregnancy, and as abortion was illegal in Ireland, the family travelled to England for an abortion. Before the abortion was carried out, the family asked the Garda Síochána if DNA from the aborted foetus would be admissible as evidence in the courts, as the neighbour was denying responsibility. Hearing that X planned to have an abortion, the Irish Attorney General, sought an injunction under Article 40.3.3 of the Constitution of Ireland (which outlaws abortion) preventing her from having the procedure carried out. The injunction was granted by Mr Justice Declan Costello in the High Court.

The High Court injunction was appealed to the Supreme Court, which overturned it by a majority of four to one. The majority opinion held that a woman had a right to an abortion under Article 40.3.3 if there was "a real and substantial risk" to her life. This right did not exist if there was a risk to her health but not her life; however it did exist if the risk was the possibility of suicide. X had a miscarriage shortly after the judgement, before an abortion could be carried out.

The man who raped her and got her pregnant was sentenced to 14 years in prison. This was reduced on appeal to 4 years.

F'd up! Paulie Nov 2012 #1
Horrible, needless death Politicub Nov 2012 #2
F*cking femrap Nov 2012 #3
No mother. No baby. Bereaved father. Three days of agony. Good job. nt morningglory Nov 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Nov 2012 #14
That poor woman! sheshe2 Nov 2012 #5
history repeating itself. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #6
Racism and religious bigotry played a part along with institutionalized sexism Blasphemer Nov 2012 #7
Time for Ireland to evolve away from this theocratic bullshit. appal_jack Nov 2012 #10
I thought the pedophilia scandals had changed things Patiod Nov 2012 #19
The hospital, the Dr,/assistants whomever refused to treat her properly, should be charged with crunch60 Nov 2012 #22
Precisely Tsiyu Nov 2012 #43
If Romney had of won we would be joining Ireland. oldbanjo Nov 2012 #62
Actually, they could be charged with murdering the fetus. colorado_ufo Nov 2012 #63
after having yet another tit for tat PatrynXX Nov 2012 #8
By the way, no one is "pro abortion" CitizenPatriot Nov 2012 #24
You mean you're not pro-abortion?! Arkana Nov 2012 #64
A fetus is not a baby AAO Nov 2012 #35
Ireland really has to move out of the 1500s. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #9
Not just Ireland moving out of the 1500s sheshe2 Nov 2012 #17
Murder by patriarchy diane in sf Nov 2012 #11
That's it EXACTLY! truebluegreen Nov 2012 #49
God damn those stupid, women-hating men Stargazer09 Nov 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Nov 2012 #16
Catholic country, my ass. They sell condoms and allow divorce. MADem Nov 2012 #13
+1000 alittlelark Nov 2012 #18
To my Dismay, I do not believe it will be a Catalyst.... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #21
I'm hoping Ireland will rise up and get pissed off. It's past time. MADem Nov 2012 #38
Those Scumbags! Megahurtz Nov 2012 #72
I personally know several "pro-lifer" types crim son Nov 2012 #15
All I can say to anyone spouting the "god's will" argument is.... theHandpuppet Nov 2012 #60
Then those people should forego modern medical procedures... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #74
But... there's no such thing as abortion to save the life of the mother! mainer Nov 2012 #20
This is a CRIME!!! KauaiK Nov 2012 #23
Correction, Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #46
Those "doctors" should be put in jail for murder. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #25
The Holy and Pious... SoapBox Nov 2012 #26
Soapbox ... DakotaLady Nov 2012 #28
The Catholic church does not care about life. Initech Nov 2012 #27
I just hate it when the incubator breaks. nolabear Nov 2012 #29
Vatican death panel JEB Nov 2012 #30
she was 17 weeks and miscarrying the fetus was not going to survive in any event azurnoir Nov 2012 #31
Fuck right wing bastards! AAO Nov 2012 #32
Good to know that they're protecting the sanctity of life, right? ck4829 Nov 2012 #33
Horrible tragedy. That poor woman. MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #34
That's conservatives for ya. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #36
I hate these crazies with their goddam zygote fetish. nt valerief Nov 2012 #37
Death panels. truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #39
The Catholic Church has to be kicked out of politics in Ireland and everywhere else in the world. Monk06 Nov 2012 #40
This story needs wide-apread news coverage in the US and on cabal and national TV. kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #41
Whoever it was that made the decision not to save her life DFW Nov 2012 #42
The poor woman was probably dead no matter what. AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #44
Disagree. An abortion could have saved her life. mainer Nov 2012 #56
My point... AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #81
Pro-life only for the fetus. Otherwise, "you're fucked." sakabatou Nov 2012 #45
Where's that photo of Sinéad O'Connor tearing up the pope? (NT) Heywood J Nov 2012 #47
She knew EXACTLY what she was doing...and she WAS CORRECT! Raster Nov 2012 #48
Apparently there was a foetal heartbeat but Savita had a beating heart too rizlaplus Nov 2012 #50
In Ireland: Miscarrying women told to ‘read between lines’ and go to UK rizlaplus Nov 2012 #83
:( anti-poopyhead Nov 2012 #51
Wish that article would bother to tell us what the law is there treestar Nov 2012 #52
"Real and substantial risk" to the life of mother Blasphemer Nov 2012 #54
Not So Simple RobinA Nov 2012 #59
Horrible story Blasphemer Nov 2012 #61
And these legalistic questions treestar Nov 2012 #67
I am not an expert on this at all, so i could be way off base, hedgehog Nov 2012 #73
Thank you for finding that treestar Nov 2012 #66
"The law remains unclear" AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #82
This is what the teabag republicans want here workinclasszero Nov 2012 #53
Organized religion is >>> Tonkinlievet Nov 2012 #55
So now we have 2 deaths instead of one. When are these stupid people going to wake up? ? Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #57
Fuck it, just fuck it. idwiyo Nov 2012 #58
People need to go to jail for this for a VERY long time... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #65
Didn't some repugnant Republican say last month that No Mothers Die From Lack Of Abortions? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #68
I'm sure Paul Ryan, Todd Akin and Richard Morudock are celebrating SpartanDem Nov 2012 #69
. progressoid Nov 2012 #70
how many more must die to malevolent neglect to feel holier than thou? NuttyFluffers Nov 2012 #71
Because two deaths is somehow morally superior to abortion. EOM ChoralScholar Nov 2012 #75
This is horrific. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #76
She was only 31 years old LibGranny Nov 2012 #77
. myrna minx Nov 2012 #78
I'm glad this is getting so much attention. Poor woman. Sundome Nov 2012 #79
Guardian: I am ashamed that Ireland's medieval abortion law still stands Judi Lynn Nov 2012 #80
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