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In reply to the discussion: Meatless Mondays': LA urges residents to turn vegetarian one day a week [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)71. It's a personal and cultural thing. 'My mom fed me bacon and she loved me! Don't say she was wrong!'
Food is full of emotional triggers that lead back to feelings of family, love and community. Not the food itself, but the memories that the smell and taste evoke.
So it's logical that some are very defensive about it. They think you're interfering with their security. Or culture or family. It's simliar to the Apple vs. Microsoft thing.
No use being authoritarian and this little announcement didn't stop anyone from eating meat. But I think I understand the emotions here, and I'm not putting anyone down.
Frequently I long to eat the foods of my childhood, what was shared at family gatherings, although it's no longer appropriate for me. So I don't try to convert anyone, I just ask for tolerance for all lifestyles.
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Meatless Mondays': LA urges residents to turn vegetarian one day a week [View all]
onehandle
Nov 2012
OP
Cutting meat consumption to a reasonable level is critcal to fighting climate change.
antigone382
Nov 2012
#2
A city government has no business telling people what they should and should not eat
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#6
human activity is causing climate change. Agriculture is a part of that activity.
antigone382
Nov 2012
#7
It's not the LA city council's job to save the planet from anthropogenic climate change
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#8
As a matter of fact, the first thing I did before responding to the OP was to read the charter
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#12
Well when the city council walks into your dining room and snatches a chicken off your plate...
antigone382
Nov 2012
#82
Thanks. This is probably the most textbook "first world problem" I've ever encountered.
antigone382
Nov 2012
#91
I dispute your characterization of the council's recommendation as "scientifically correct"
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#138
What is scientifically correct is that high rates of meat consumption contribute to climate change.
antigone382
Nov 2012
#139
And there is NO BASIS for claiming that meat-eaters voluntarily giving up meat one day each week...
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#140
Having meat eaters pretend to be vegetarians one day per week won't change foodways
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#144
Well that sounds like a great argument for the city council to ban meat forever.
antigone382
Nov 2012
#146
I know many Angelinos. Nobody I know will take the recommendation seriously.
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#14
Did they have a giant vegetarian get-together last night to celebrate the council's proclamation?
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#131
How can you argue simultaneously that this is a toothless and ineffective action...
antigone382
Nov 2012
#141
I didn't say that local politicians are any different than state or national ones
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#171
So in answer to my key question, what is an effective course of action regarding climate change?
antigone382
Nov 2012
#175
To me it seems that the problem is so big that it will require major commitments on the part...
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#178
It does occur to you that LA gets almost all its water from somewhere else, right?
antigone382
Nov 2012
#111
Except that isn't what they're doing, Nancy Kneejerk. Are you forced into a church on Easter?
DRoseDARs
Nov 2012
#21
I grew up and have eaten Comida Mexicana most of my life. Refritos frijoles and eggs IS breakfast.
freshwest
Nov 2012
#69
if you think Thanksgiving is on a Monday, LOL, you have no idea what you're talking about
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#95
I'm sure it's only a suggestion, not a mandate. Fish for Fridays was cultural, not a law.
freshwest
Nov 2012
#22
I wouldn't mind being given the option of a good meatless meal at a restaurant, if I ate out.
freshwest
Nov 2012
#32
You already have that option, unless you live in a small town or a rural area
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#35
Getting re-elected by voters who agree with it, is wrong, how? If they're the majority?
freshwest
Nov 2012
#38
It's amazing how thoroughly your personal bias against me prevents you from seeing the truth
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#130
I don't regard the members of the L.A. city council as liberals in any sense of the word
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#133
They aren't your city council and you mainly are criticizing them because they did something liberal
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#149
Your brand of liberalism is not sacrosanct on DU. This board is for Democrats of all stripes.
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#154
nobody said "free from criticism", but free from criticism simply because it is liberalism
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#164
As I have posted here repeatedly, giving people dietary advice without a scientific basis is not...
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#168
Show me the science that demonstrates that asking meat-eaters to give up meat one day each week...
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#172
I'd like to see what happens in a controlled situation with volunteers who WILL follow the advice...
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#179
You aren't being "centrist" you're mocking a health and environmental campaign with right wing snark
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#156
'The worst kind of nannyism'? Surpassing transvaginal ultrasounds, criminalizing abortion and...
freshwest
Nov 2012
#65
Eat as much meat as you like, the best thing you can do for the environment
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#61
I don't really understand why you're asking this question in relation to the OP...
antigone382
Nov 2012
#85
"nanny state"??? that's a right wing term and LA's advice is environmentally sound
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#40
Would you care to place a wager on the likelihood that all 12 council members will comply with...
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#113
"Nanny state" is a right wing term and going meat-free one day per week is sound advice
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#119
I think people should decide for themselves what is best for them to eat, and how much of it
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#132
you are against the vegetarian day, so you are against the "don't drive day" too, right?
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#165
Wow, I can't imagine how you could have missed the point any more thoroughly
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#169
No I liked this idea before you came to this thread to dump all over it with anti-liberal bile
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#173
I think it's a great idea and find it sad that so many are so defensive about it.
forestpath
Nov 2012
#34
It's a personal and cultural thing. 'My mom fed me bacon and she loved me! Don't say she was wrong!'
freshwest
Nov 2012
#71
And yet suggesting that will get you berated by even the greenest vegan
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#63
From the way people are reacting to this, you'd think they'd actually outlawed meat.
ET Awful
Nov 2012
#50
I've cut down on meat consumption in general but mostly to save money
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#59
So what have Perry and Reyes done about food deserts in LA that LACK fresh produce?
alp227
Nov 2012
#79
Reyes has done more than you about Climate Change and certainly more for LA than you
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#158
Says the guy who thinks I shouldn't weigh on on something the L.A. city council said
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#167
I had a carne asada taco for dinner last night in solidarity with the meat eaters of Los Angeles
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#127