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26. That is not clear at all. I personally support the President's mandate proposals. But I think

Fri Dec 3, 2021, 08:24 PM

Dec 2021

there can be a legitimate argument over whether imposing a mandate is the most effective way to tackle this problem. And as much as I disagree with Manchin on many issues, I doubt very seriously if he actually supports Americans dying from Covid. Why would he? Or maybe you were just being sarcastic and not literal. I hope so.

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Manchin will vote with Senate GOPers to scrap Biden's biz vax mandate [View all] discocrisco01 Dec 2021 OP

The bill goes no where gab13by13 Dec 2021 #1

Might be indicative that you put the word Democrat in quotes SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #6

All true. Sure would be nice if he'd at least support voting rights though. groundloop Dec 2021 #14

Well, aside from his standing on Build Back Better, I think we have found the absolute middle in the LakeVermilion Dec 2021 #2

There were Democrats who "turned their backs" on the infrastructure bill. lapucelle Dec 2021 #7

You are speaking of one infrastructure bill. ColinC Dec 2021 #11

What other infrastructure bill would that be? lapucelle Dec 2021 #15

Why hasn't the senate voted on its' version of the bill yet? ColinC Dec 2021 #16

Senators Menendez and Sanders are working on a fix for the SALT exemption. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #21

Quite a way of framing it BradAllison Dec 2021 #53

The "framing" is a clear, simple statement of a fact. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #60

False narrative TiberiusB Dec 2021 #50

Noting that not all Democrats voted for BIF is a statement of fact, not a narrative. lapucelle Dec 2021 #61

Yes, I noticed that - one of the House Democrats who voted against the infrastructure bill is now... George II Dec 2021 #69

The credit grabbing may be based on a technicality. lapucelle Dec 2021 #71

Being a member of Congress and voting AGAINST the better interests of one's constituents..... George II Dec 2021 #67

There have been a "quieter" group who don't showboat like Manchin BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #17

Thing is, if we just had to worry about them, and them alone, i'm pretty sure we would have had a ColinC Dec 2021 #19

Not necessarily BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #32

We need more Senate seats. ColinC Dec 2021 #37

Yeah we do BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #38

I've used that site many times, but mostly for a comparison of currently seated Senators or.... George II Dec 2021 #78

Oh yeah I agree BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #79

One honest Republicancould knock Manchin off his pole. True Blue American Dec 2021 #81

which Democratic turned their back on the infrastructrue bill? This is a discussion about the Senate ShazamIam Dec 2021 #13

Wait...what? Why is this a discussion about a Senate vote? lapucelle Dec 2021 #18

what was your point? ShazamIam Dec 2021 #27

There were Democrats who "turned their backs" on the infrastructure bill. lapucelle Dec 2021 #34

I see anger in that and you are mixing House and Senate. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #64

What does that even mean? No Senate Democrats voted against BIF. lapucelle Dec 2021 #66

Deflection TiberiusB Dec 2021 #51

I went to sleep wondering why the comment triggered me, and realize it was the anger, when those ShazamIam Dec 2021 #63

The impasse has little (if anything) to do with Manchin. It's Sanders and Menendez. lapucelle Dec 2021 #65

Difference of opinions and I disagree that Sanders and Mendez are holding it up. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #70

The fact that there is an impasse due to SALT negotiations is not an opinion. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #72

The comment I first replied to was about 6 House Democratic votes and what I perceived as ShazamIam Dec 2021 #74

Where is there any "anger" in the simple statement of two facts? lapucelle Dec 2021 #75

Still looks angry to me. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #76

The perception of anger in non-angry expressions is an interesting phenomena lapucelle Dec 2021 #77

My professional opinion is that the "perception of anger" is an issue for the perceiver, not you. George II Dec 2021 #86

There are peer reviewed studies by behavioral scientists that confirm your professional opinion. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #89

Sanders is holding up the bill in the same manner as Manchin has been accused of holding it up. George II Dec 2021 #80

That's a load of crap Bayard Dec 2021 #3

What hammer will work on Manchin? SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #8

Last night, Mancchin voted with Democrats against a GOP amendment to eliminate this mandate. lapucelle Dec 2021 #4

Thing is, that if he doesn't vote for a voting rights act ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2021 #28

Joe Manchin is a co-sponsor of Amy Klobuchar's Freedom to Vote Act (S.2747) lapucelle Dec 2021 #36

Hmmm, so who isn't a co-sponsor? George II Dec 2021 #84

I'm sorry, but I STILL don't trust him as far as I could throw the Empire State Building. LenaBaby61 Dec 2021 #90

Clearly he supports Americans dying from covid. rockfordfile Dec 2021 #5

That is not clear at all. I personally support the President's mandate proposals. But I think totodeinhere Dec 2021 #26

Manchin is a danger to society. LiberalFighter Dec 2021 #9

A decent amount, almost 4900... róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #57

So he's actively cosponsoring a bill to overturn a key part of the Biden agenda? ColinC Dec 2021 #10

Nate Silver has a continuously updated tally. lapucelle Dec 2021 #24

This metric is really useless in todays senate. Salviati Dec 2021 #30

Manchin rates 100% in voting with President Biden. lapucelle Dec 2021 #33

That's not how it works Polybius Dec 2021 #46

Nate Silver is a data scientist, and his conclusions are evidence-based. lapucelle Dec 2021 #68

No, I didn't say it wasn't true Polybius Dec 2021 #85

and my I say, I DESPISE him??? 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Dec 2021 #12

let me be clear... myohmy2 Dec 2021 #20

I support Democrats BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #22

I fixed it for you. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #23

NY Post? No thanks. Galraedia Dec 2021 #25

Of course he will. brush Dec 2021 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Spazito Dec 2021 #31

Don't ya know that the constitution is a suicde pact? Jacson6 Dec 2021 #35

Of course he does because that's what those poor folks in WVA want--that's the official line jalan48 Dec 2021 #39

s/b: "all 50 of his fellow Republican colleagues" NullTuples Dec 2021 #40

Big surprise Rebl2 Dec 2021 #41

I don't know why people keep referring to this as a "mandate" Takket Dec 2021 #42

Scrap all vaccine mandates and see if he changes his tune. n/t rainin Dec 2021 #43

When will Manchin support the president? Lunabell Dec 2021 #44

Nate Silver: Does Your Member Of Congress Vote With Or Against Biden? lapucelle Dec 2021 #45

Oh please. Lunabell Dec 2021 #48

It's a profoundly stupid metric TiberiusB Dec 2021 #52

So then, since you claim he does it, how many votes has Manchin missed since January? George II Dec 2021 #96

I'll answer my own question - of 479 votes this year Manchin has missed a whopping TEN... George II Dec 2021 #99

Ah, strawmen... TiberiusB Dec 2021 #105

Nate Silver is a data scientist whose conclusions are evidence-based. lapucelle Dec 2021 #62

Oh, look at this, surprise, surprise, surprise! Lunabell Dec 2021 #49

There's nothing surprising about a divisive opinion piece in a national newspaper. lapucelle Dec 2021 #82

I think you're backing the wrong horse. Lunabell Dec 2021 #91

Joe Manchin is a Democrat. lapucelle Dec 2021 #92

Well, that's part of the problem. Lunabell Dec 2021 #93

He wins elections in West Virginia. Do you know of ANY other Democrat who could win in WV? George II Dec 2021 #97

Another Democrat could if the party backed them. Lunabell Dec 2021 #100

Any suggestions? The party has backed EVERY Democratic Senate candidate..... George II Dec 2021 #101

No suggestions as to whom. Lunabell Dec 2021 #102

So, find someone better but you don't know who it might be. Fact is, in my opinion, there isn't one. George II Dec 2021 #103

I guess we'll see. Lunabell Dec 2021 #104

It's not a problem that Joe Manchin is a lifelong Democrat who knows how to win elections lapucelle Dec 2021 #98

Putz! Martin68 Dec 2021 #47

Fuck this guy! vercetti2021 Dec 2021 #54

same here ! sick of his bull shit ! a damn coal barron ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #55

Bad move... Mike Nelson Dec 2021 #56

And the wingnut agenda rolls on orangecrush Dec 2021 #58

The amendment failed and Manchin Deminpenn Dec 2021 #59

I don't know why we keep expecting different. zanana1 Dec 2021 #73

Reading the fine print, the "bill" is actually a "resolution of disapproval", and must be passed.... George II Dec 2021 #83

Manchin voted against the measure as an amendment in the stopgap funding bill. lapucelle Dec 2021 #88

A Symbolic Vote DallasNE Dec 2021 #87

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*LOCKING* Spazito Dec 2021 #106