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14. All true. Sure would be nice if he'd at least support voting rights though.

Fri Dec 3, 2021, 07:55 PM

Dec 2021

Without getting control of GQP gerrymandering we're fucked for at least the next decade.

HOWEVER, as already mentioned, this bill has zero chance of making it through the House. My guess is that Manchin is doing this to gain political points in W. Va.

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Manchin will vote with Senate GOPers to scrap Biden's biz vax mandate [View all] discocrisco01 Dec 2021 OP

The bill goes no where gab13by13 Dec 2021 #1

Might be indicative that you put the word Democrat in quotes SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #6

All true. Sure would be nice if he'd at least support voting rights though. groundloop Dec 2021 #14

Well, aside from his standing on Build Back Better, I think we have found the absolute middle in the LakeVermilion Dec 2021 #2

There were Democrats who "turned their backs" on the infrastructure bill. lapucelle Dec 2021 #7

You are speaking of one infrastructure bill. ColinC Dec 2021 #11

What other infrastructure bill would that be? lapucelle Dec 2021 #15

Why hasn't the senate voted on its' version of the bill yet? ColinC Dec 2021 #16

Senators Menendez and Sanders are working on a fix for the SALT exemption. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #21

Quite a way of framing it BradAllison Dec 2021 #53

The "framing" is a clear, simple statement of a fact. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #60

False narrative TiberiusB Dec 2021 #50

Noting that not all Democrats voted for BIF is a statement of fact, not a narrative. lapucelle Dec 2021 #61

Yes, I noticed that - one of the House Democrats who voted against the infrastructure bill is now... George II Dec 2021 #69

The credit grabbing may be based on a technicality. lapucelle Dec 2021 #71

Being a member of Congress and voting AGAINST the better interests of one's constituents..... George II Dec 2021 #67

There have been a "quieter" group who don't showboat like Manchin BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #17

Thing is, if we just had to worry about them, and them alone, i'm pretty sure we would have had a ColinC Dec 2021 #19

Not necessarily BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #32

We need more Senate seats. ColinC Dec 2021 #37

Yeah we do BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #38

I've used that site many times, but mostly for a comparison of currently seated Senators or.... George II Dec 2021 #78

Oh yeah I agree BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #79

One honest Republicancould knock Manchin off his pole. True Blue American Dec 2021 #81

which Democratic turned their back on the infrastructrue bill? This is a discussion about the Senate ShazamIam Dec 2021 #13

Wait...what? Why is this a discussion about a Senate vote? lapucelle Dec 2021 #18

what was your point? ShazamIam Dec 2021 #27

There were Democrats who "turned their backs" on the infrastructure bill. lapucelle Dec 2021 #34

I see anger in that and you are mixing House and Senate. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #64

What does that even mean? No Senate Democrats voted against BIF. lapucelle Dec 2021 #66

Deflection TiberiusB Dec 2021 #51

I went to sleep wondering why the comment triggered me, and realize it was the anger, when those ShazamIam Dec 2021 #63

The impasse has little (if anything) to do with Manchin. It's Sanders and Menendez. lapucelle Dec 2021 #65

Difference of opinions and I disagree that Sanders and Mendez are holding it up. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #70

The fact that there is an impasse due to SALT negotiations is not an opinion. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #72

The comment I first replied to was about 6 House Democratic votes and what I perceived as ShazamIam Dec 2021 #74

Where is there any "anger" in the simple statement of two facts? lapucelle Dec 2021 #75

Still looks angry to me. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #76

The perception of anger in non-angry expressions is an interesting phenomena lapucelle Dec 2021 #77

My professional opinion is that the "perception of anger" is an issue for the perceiver, not you. George II Dec 2021 #86

There are peer reviewed studies by behavioral scientists that confirm your professional opinion. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #89

Sanders is holding up the bill in the same manner as Manchin has been accused of holding it up. George II Dec 2021 #80

That's a load of crap Bayard Dec 2021 #3

What hammer will work on Manchin? SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #8

Last night, Mancchin voted with Democrats against a GOP amendment to eliminate this mandate. lapucelle Dec 2021 #4

Thing is, that if he doesn't vote for a voting rights act ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2021 #28

Joe Manchin is a co-sponsor of Amy Klobuchar's Freedom to Vote Act (S.2747) lapucelle Dec 2021 #36

Hmmm, so who isn't a co-sponsor? George II Dec 2021 #84

I'm sorry, but I STILL don't trust him as far as I could throw the Empire State Building. LenaBaby61 Dec 2021 #90

Clearly he supports Americans dying from covid. rockfordfile Dec 2021 #5

That is not clear at all. I personally support the President's mandate proposals. But I think totodeinhere Dec 2021 #26

Manchin is a danger to society. LiberalFighter Dec 2021 #9

A decent amount, almost 4900... róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #57

So he's actively cosponsoring a bill to overturn a key part of the Biden agenda? ColinC Dec 2021 #10

Nate Silver has a continuously updated tally. lapucelle Dec 2021 #24

This metric is really useless in todays senate. Salviati Dec 2021 #30

Manchin rates 100% in voting with President Biden. lapucelle Dec 2021 #33

That's not how it works Polybius Dec 2021 #46

Nate Silver is a data scientist, and his conclusions are evidence-based. lapucelle Dec 2021 #68

No, I didn't say it wasn't true Polybius Dec 2021 #85

and my I say, I DESPISE him??? 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Dec 2021 #12

let me be clear... myohmy2 Dec 2021 #20

I support Democrats BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #22

I fixed it for you. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #23

NY Post? No thanks. Galraedia Dec 2021 #25

Of course he will. brush Dec 2021 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Spazito Dec 2021 #31

Don't ya know that the constitution is a suicde pact? Jacson6 Dec 2021 #35

Of course he does because that's what those poor folks in WVA want--that's the official line jalan48 Dec 2021 #39

s/b: "all 50 of his fellow Republican colleagues" NullTuples Dec 2021 #40

Big surprise Rebl2 Dec 2021 #41

I don't know why people keep referring to this as a "mandate" Takket Dec 2021 #42

Scrap all vaccine mandates and see if he changes his tune. n/t rainin Dec 2021 #43

When will Manchin support the president? Lunabell Dec 2021 #44

Nate Silver: Does Your Member Of Congress Vote With Or Against Biden? lapucelle Dec 2021 #45

Oh please. Lunabell Dec 2021 #48

It's a profoundly stupid metric TiberiusB Dec 2021 #52

So then, since you claim he does it, how many votes has Manchin missed since January? George II Dec 2021 #96

I'll answer my own question - of 479 votes this year Manchin has missed a whopping TEN... George II Dec 2021 #99

Ah, strawmen... TiberiusB Dec 2021 #105

Nate Silver is a data scientist whose conclusions are evidence-based. lapucelle Dec 2021 #62

Oh, look at this, surprise, surprise, surprise! Lunabell Dec 2021 #49

There's nothing surprising about a divisive opinion piece in a national newspaper. lapucelle Dec 2021 #82

I think you're backing the wrong horse. Lunabell Dec 2021 #91

Joe Manchin is a Democrat. lapucelle Dec 2021 #92

Well, that's part of the problem. Lunabell Dec 2021 #93

He wins elections in West Virginia. Do you know of ANY other Democrat who could win in WV? George II Dec 2021 #97

Another Democrat could if the party backed them. Lunabell Dec 2021 #100

Any suggestions? The party has backed EVERY Democratic Senate candidate..... George II Dec 2021 #101

No suggestions as to whom. Lunabell Dec 2021 #102

So, find someone better but you don't know who it might be. Fact is, in my opinion, there isn't one. George II Dec 2021 #103

I guess we'll see. Lunabell Dec 2021 #104

It's not a problem that Joe Manchin is a lifelong Democrat who knows how to win elections lapucelle Dec 2021 #98

Putz! Martin68 Dec 2021 #47

Fuck this guy! vercetti2021 Dec 2021 #54

same here ! sick of his bull shit ! a damn coal barron ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #55

Bad move... Mike Nelson Dec 2021 #56

And the wingnut agenda rolls on orangecrush Dec 2021 #58

The amendment failed and Manchin Deminpenn Dec 2021 #59

I don't know why we keep expecting different. zanana1 Dec 2021 #73

Reading the fine print, the "bill" is actually a "resolution of disapproval", and must be passed.... George II Dec 2021 #83

Manchin voted against the measure as an amendment in the stopgap funding bill. lapucelle Dec 2021 #88

A Symbolic Vote DallasNE Dec 2021 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #94

Post removed Post removed Dec 2021 #95

*LOCKING* Spazito Dec 2021 #106