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30. He might have been breaking industry rules

Wed Dec 1, 2021, 07:07 PM

Dec 2021

But he was following the law and simple common sense when using a gun that can fire live ammo, Clooney understands that he is responsible for anything that happens when he is holding a gun. It might not be their job to check but it is their responsibility, morally and legally.

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Alec Baldwin denies pulling trigger in 'Rust' shooting [View all] turbinetree Dec 2021 OP

That May Be A Hard Sell COL Mustard Dec 2021 #1

I suppose he might not of consciously pulled the trigger captain queeg Dec 2021 #2

Colt single action Army (replica) JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #24

Yeah, a semi-automatic pistol can have a hair trigger TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #72

A single action revolver Zeitghost Dec 2021 #86

Ah! The plot thickens TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #87

I still can't understand that Zeitghost Dec 2021 #88

I'm surprised their insurance policy doesn't ban it TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #89

An examination of the gun used will tell all. Aussie105 Dec 2021 #3

Love it how we all opine on events we read in the press bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #4

+1 OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #13

Cowboy guns like Single Action Army revolvers all have hair triggers. JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #26

He has been sued by people on the set. former9thward Dec 2021 #69

Good luck Rebl2 Dec 2021 #5

Do you actually think he is guilty of murder? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2021 #17

Weeks go by and suddenly he says he didn't pull the trigger? NH Ethylene Dec 2021 #57

Not murder, but probably involuntary manslaughter FBaggins Dec 2021 #62

How could it not be? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2021 #68

I am assuming this was a single action, old west type revolver. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #6

I suppose it could have a very light trigger pull and he didn't consciously pull it. I had a doc03 Dec 2021 #14

You know how people accidentally shoot while cleaning their gun? JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #29

Ah, that makes sense, I've wondered about that. JudyM Dec 2021 #50

One explanation of the "it went off when they were cleaning it" - Auggy74 Dec 2021 #60

I don't know about practicing his quick draw, but JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #61

+1 Lithos Dec 2021 #59

A forensic analysis of the gun will let the truth out here Lithos Dec 2021 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author sop Dec 2021 #7

From what I have been able to gather (and the reporting on this is poor) rsdsharp Dec 2021 #8

Reloaded ammunition relayerbob Dec 2021 #9

Why was this not birdographer Dec 2021 #10

Cue the internet experts ... 🙄 live love laugh Dec 2021 #11

Don't know why they're wasting their vast firearms knowledge on us. Paladin Dec 2021 #36

In the 80s I had a room mate who was really into guns. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #12

He was holding the gun regardless of what he says he is responsible ripcord Dec 2021 #15

There were two people whose job explicitly Hav Dec 2021 #16

Other actors, including George Clooney have said they always check guns on sets ripcord Dec 2021 #18

Interesting. This contradicts everything everyone else has said everywhere. localroger Dec 2021 #22

He might have been breaking industry rules ripcord Dec 2021 #30

This is just not how it works localroger Dec 2021 #32

I agree rockfordfile Dec 2021 #54

Many movie sets probably follow different standards and rules Hav Dec 2021 #31

How exactly does a movie company absolve someone of a legal responsiblity? ripcord Dec 2021 #34

It was a movie Hav Dec 2021 #40

Anyone who handles a gun needs to know the basic safety rules. Kaleva Dec 2021 #47

The basic safety rule is, "the armorer said this gun is cold." That is all the actor needs to know. localroger Dec 2021 #48

No. One of the basic safety rules is to treat every gun like it's loaded. Kaleva Dec 2021 #51

As Mr. Bill asked, what if the script calls for a small child to pick up the gun? localroger Dec 2021 #56

Would Halyna Hutchins be alive today had Baldwin followed the very basic safety rules? Kaleva Dec 2021 #66

She would also be alive if localroger Dec 2021 #67

Hannah Guitterez didn't point the gun at someone and pull the trigger. Calista241 Dec 2021 #70

Guiterrez's job was to make sure that if the gun was pointed, that it would be safe localroger Dec 2021 #74

So you agree then that she'd still be alive had Baldwin followed the basic safety rules? Kaleva Dec 2021 #80

Well sure localroger Dec 2021 #81

Everyone with a gun is expected to follow basic safety rules. No exceptions. Kaleva Dec 2021 #82

Well, it's been a nice discussion, but I'm done localroger Dec 2021 #83

Hopefully, you, Baldwin and others have learned that gun safety is a seriour matter Kaleva Dec 2021 #85

What if you are shooting a scene where Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #55

I'd imagine they'd use a replica of a gun and not an actual gun Kaleva Dec 2021 #65

But if that replica gun looked just like a Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #76

Not if the replica didn't have any actual working parts Kaleva Dec 2021 #79

Nobody should hold a weapon unless they know the weapon. marie999 Dec 2021 #52

This is not the way it works on a movie set localroger Dec 2021 #20

So you can show me the exemption to safe gun handling laws the movie industry has? nt ripcord Dec 2021 #21

These aren't laws. These are standard practices. localroger Dec 2021 #23

What happened decades ago doesn't matter ripcord Dec 2021 #28

Then it's odd that nothing much changed after Brandon Lee's death localroger Dec 2021 #33

No one should make another movie that uses a real gun ripcord Dec 2021 #37

Well that isn't going to happen localroger Dec 2021 #39

Oh, and here's how it's done localroger Dec 2021 #41

CA has several legal exceptions for firearms used in movies sl8 Dec 2021 #35

CA has stricter firearm laws than most other states, making the exception more important localroger Dec 2021 #38

The awful truth is some of us are harboring suspicions that this horrific event was set up to, ShazamIam Dec 2021 #19

Yeah I had this theory as well. Initech Dec 2021 #27

The awful truth is that some would rather push conspiracy theories than say... Lancero Dec 2021 #42

I find the statement too much in conflict to address rationally. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #43

No, he's a idiot with a gun who got someone killed. Lancero Dec 2021 #44

I am going to have to wait for the indictments and a trial before I make a statement that bold. ShazamIam Dec 2021 #45

This is a batshit crazy theory. Calista241 Dec 2021 #71

All we have seen so far is reportes accounts and brief statement from the local Law folks. So which ShazamIam Dec 2021 #73

Mind control could have prevented Baldwin from following simple safety rules! Kaleva Dec 2021 #78

It could happen Marthe48 Dec 2021 #25

This is not going to end well. Lulu KC Dec 2021 #46

Not impossible sarisataka Dec 2021 #49

Even if he pulled the trigger I don't see it as murder captain queeg Dec 2021 #53

... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #63

I would agree it isn't murder sarisataka Dec 2021 #64

Few, if any, see it as murder but some do see it as negligence. Kaleva Dec 2021 #77

Then who the hell did? Can he not face what happened? Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #75

Nobody. LisaL Dec 2021 #84