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LT Barclay

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153. Ambition.

Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:40 AM

Oct 2021

Why else would he also betray his core values, and precedent in elections to accept a role with the neo-cons?
Any other explanation would require either willful or inexplicable ignorance of the Project for the New American Century who's stated goal was to take over Iraq to ensure that the U.S. was the sole super-power in the 21st century.
Personally I've never seen anything honorable in his record. If I had any regard for him I might have saved the article, but from what was written, apparently he was quite the opportunist throughout his career.

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Colin Powell, military leader and first Black US secretary of state, dies [View all] brooklynite Oct 2021 OP

Rest in Peace. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #1

He died from Covid complications and was fully vaccinated according to Bloomberg. Very sad JohnSJ Oct 2021 #2

I wonder which vaccine he received. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #4

Yes, but more than that. Did he have autoimmune conditions or other issues that would JohnSJ Oct 2021 #7

And did he receive a booster shot? NurseJackie Oct 2021 #18

I think he was duped as many Democrats in Congress were, but regardless, he did own up JohnSJ Oct 2021 #25

"Misrepresentation"???? Outright lies. DU knew that the whole yellowcake thing was niyad Oct 2021 #57

That's the thing - he owned up to it. PatrickforB Oct 2021 #61

he was one of the leaders of the 'duplicity'. Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #66

No I am not confusing anything, and we agree. All I am saying is there were a lot of actors JohnSJ Oct 2021 #73

yes he was samsingh Oct 2021 #122

He should of spoke up! samplegirl Oct 2021 #83

I've always liked and respected him, minus the support of the Iraq war. NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #101

Well, Bush and Cheney didn't fool me, or millions of others. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #104

It wasn't a mistake, it was intentional. LT Barclay Oct 2021 #114

Why would Powell go along with such a scam? NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #135

Ambition. LT Barclay Oct 2021 #153

True. He was not a member of the PNAC, he was their unwitting tool. CaptainTruth Oct 2021 #133

He was undergoing cancer treatment AdamGG Oct 2021 #105

Thanks for the information JohnSJ Oct 2021 #112

You can have several conditions and the death will still be considered Covid if you have Covid. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #119

multiple myeloma n/t Lulu KC Oct 2021 #141

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2021 #143

Thank you for the info. That's the one that I received too... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #145

Just started seeing reports BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #3

This disease keeps on wreaking havoc. Rest in peace Colin Powell. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2021 #5

Every time we seem to experience a decline in cases/deaths, there are many bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #29

He helped shape US foreign policy by lying amcgrath Oct 2021 #6

Yeah underpants Oct 2021 #8

I agree. I'm sorry he died. I don't want to see people die, aggiesal Oct 2021 #67

I respected him before the lies, wnylib Oct 2021 #106

I think it's unclear whether he purposefully lied or was duped by phony intelligence AdamGG Oct 2021 #107

+1 Lulu KC Oct 2021 #142

Many believe he himself was lied to.. whathehell Oct 2021 #139

"What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence." dalton99a Oct 2021 #9

He allowed himself to be used. People can only use you if you allow them, and he did. Escurumbele Oct 2021 #22

MyLai. niyad Oct 2021 #58

Bingo!!!!!!!!! nc DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #90

+1 Martin Eden Oct 2021 #111

Yes, he fell for it hook, line and sinker TexasBushwhacker Oct 2021 #41

That's very sad. yardwork Oct 2021 #10

He actively helped lie the U.S. into a disastrous war PJMcK Oct 2021 #11

Sadly, my only thoughts too n/t hibbing Oct 2021 #84

That lie contributed to so much distrust of government Backseat Driver Oct 2021 #128

Well think of it this way, that distrust is one of the foundations of the distrust of vaccines, lack LT Barclay Oct 2021 #154

His legacy Botany Oct 2021 #12

Powell called it a "blot" on his record dalton99a Oct 2021 #15

Yes. He acknowledged that error, something much of the MSM did not do, especially the JohnSJ Oct 2021 #31

And that did not bring back the dead, or heal the wounded, or restore what was niyad Oct 2021 #44

and most of the media and Congress shared that blame. Knight Ridder was one of the only voices JohnSJ Oct 2021 #54

I do not exclude any of the complicit. niyad Oct 2021 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ Oct 2021 #51

Yes, and, unlike someone like Robert McNamara, didn't wait 30 years to do so. whathehell Oct 2021 #140

By the time held up his vile of faux anthrax we had already I.D.ed the source of the real anthrax .. Botany Oct 2021 #49

I'll never forget justgamma Oct 2021 #109

Colin Powell, former secretary of state, dies from COVID complications at 84 riversedge Oct 2021 #13

Holy cow, he was 84?? I thought he was more like 64 LeftInTX Oct 2021 #118

Yet Another Perfect Example WHITT Oct 2021 #14

It is nowhere near 25% obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #17

If By "It" You Mean Nationally WHITT Oct 2021 #96

We don't have enough information if he had any autoimmune conditions, or if he was JohnSJ Oct 2021 #35

CDC just released data Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #37

I keep reading less than 5% KS Toronado Oct 2021 #42

It is elss than 5% obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #71

If everyone was vaccinated, then ALL hospitalizations would be "breakthroughs" oldsoftie Oct 2021 #70

Exactly WHITT Oct 2021 #120

He had cancer and was being treated for that berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #74

And he was 84 MyMission Oct 2021 #81

He had Parkinson's Disease. n/t whathehell Oct 2021 #138

Whoever was reporting that was lying mcar Oct 2021 #78

Doubtful WHITT Oct 2021 #121

Even Faux News disagrees mcar Oct 2021 #123

I Already Posted Upthread WHITT Oct 2021 #127

I'm keeping up just fine, thanks mcar Oct 2021 #129

Not An "Anecdote" WHITT Oct 2021 #131

Not an example at all. former9thward Oct 2021 #115

I have no nice words... BooScout Oct 2021 #16

From MyLai to yellowcake, he lied, covered up, caused harm. He was no hero. niyad Oct 2021 #19

+1. He was a careerist dalton99a Oct 2021 #20

Well, he obeyed bad orders Auggie Oct 2021 #32

So disappointing. He had the ability to do great things, but you are right. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #24

+1 2naSalit Oct 2021 #34

Include publicly defying Clinton about DADT. sarge43 Oct 2021 #36

Yes, thank you. niyad Oct 2021 #46

Yes DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #82

He was raised on the (DEM) social safety net. When he got in position NCjack Oct 2021 #86

Powell lied himself to death CountAllVotes Oct 2021 #85

Sorry, but the facts, (and Joe Biden) disagree with you.. whathehell Oct 2021 #152

R.I.P. I didn't think he was that old. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #21

I hope that he is haunted by all the dead from MyLai and Iraq on all sides. niyad Oct 2021 #23

Sorry, but I don't hold your view of death. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #27

I don't share "nil nisi bonum". niyad Oct 2021 #40

I didn't say anything 'nice. Just believe the dead are dead. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #48

I'm sure he wont be, as none of them were his fault. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #64

Fascinating. niyad Oct 2021 #76

Two points IMHO. 1.HE could have stop the invasion of Iraq. 2. He could have been elected POTUS. usaf-vet Oct 2021 #26

I do not believe he could have stopped the second invasion of Iraq, even if he came out and refuted JohnSJ Oct 2021 #45

Of course you could very well be right. But we will never know for sure. usaf-vet Oct 2021 #62

Of course, but as I said, in spite of all that, Knight Ridder got it right, and their reporing JohnSJ Oct 2021 #65

He could have been elected POTUS in '96 AdamGG Oct 2021 #110

once again I invoke the Thumper edict NewHendoLib Oct 2021 #28

David Swanson on Powell's lies... RobertDevereaux Oct 2021 #30

He was and is part of this Legacy..... turbinetree Oct 2021 #33

I am confused DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #94

Ah yes lets bring this memory back ..... turbinetree Oct 2021 #97

Must be the example that made MF45 FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #100

With a connection to My Lai. Lt Calley and Capt Medina were directly under Col Powell ... marble falls Oct 2021 #38

General Powell was not even in Vietnam when My Lai occurred.. whathehell Oct 2021 #146

I don't hate Collin Powell. But I recognize his feet of clay ... marble falls Oct 2021 #147

I read the same passage, and it was not a "partial justification" whathehell Oct 2021 #149

So massacres are alright as long as it was driven by being scared shitless. Got it. marble falls Oct 2021 #150

Not what he said, not what I said.. whathehell Oct 2021 #151

His tombstone should read: milestogo Oct 2021 #39

I can't forgive him for the lies. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #43

I served under him, and had the highest respect James48 Oct 2021 #47

Me too. I actually met him at a UN function (before W) Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #52

I think he actually believed his UN speech. RIP Calista241 Oct 2021 #56

Me too. He seems like the type who wouldnt have given it otherwise. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #79

+++. Some believe the Iraq war could have been avoided if only General Powell had pushed back. JohnSJ Oct 2021 #63

I very much doubt that he could have changed anything Hav Oct 2021 #72

I agree JohnSJ Oct 2021 #75

They might not have gotten that war if Powell had declared it "bullshit!" publicly ZZenith Oct 2021 #132

I had great respect for him hamsterjill Oct 2021 #50

His water carrying for george w moron* and chaney Javaman Oct 2021 #53

Yes DoBotherMe Oct 2021 #113

Sad Snackshack Oct 2021 #55

Rest in peace, Colin, and in the eternal light of Divine love. PatrickforB Oct 2021 #60

GOD, I hope trump doesnt release a statement! oldsoftie Oct 2021 #68

He was a great man, not matter what period Naio Oct 2021 #69

He grew old and died. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #77

RIP, General Powell. Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #80

Condolences to the Powell family. sarchasm Oct 2021 #87

Well, you know what's going to happen jmowreader Oct 2021 #88

It's already started MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #137

That's a shame. He made mistakes, but was a patriot. Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #89

Yes for sure FakeNoose Oct 2021 #98

I agree. I think honorable people don't always have good radar Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #99

Rest In Peace. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #91

So sad bdamomma Oct 2021 #92

He's the only one who could have stopped the Iraq War. cab67 Oct 2021 #93

Not necessarily, cab DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #95

It's actually somewhat murky. cab67 Oct 2021 #102

Hugh Thompson was an honorable man. DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #126

He was one of the few Republicans I never really hated. ananda Oct 2021 #103

I'm sorry to hear this. Rest in Peace. nt chowder66 Oct 2021 #108

Great man? No way. fizzix137 Oct 2021 #116

+1 CountAllVotes Oct 2021 #117

President Joe.Biden strongly disagrees with you.. whathehell Oct 2021 #148

The willfully unvaccinated killed him. roamer65 Oct 2021 #124

This is sad, I really liked him, and was hoping some day YoshidaYui Oct 2021 #125

RIP. He gave one of the best endorsements I've ecstatic Oct 2021 #130

100% agree. oasis Oct 2021 #134

Twitter response: Rhiannon12866 Oct 2021 #136

His life will always have an asterisk beside it Deminpenn Oct 2021 #144