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LenaBaby61

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38. I wonder if they were genuinely, honestly, truly fearful and distrustful.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:16 PM
Jul 2021

I'm Native-American and African-American. Both parents grew up in a Jim Crow South. Many relatives on my late Mom's side were used as experiments from Tuskegee. She knew many of them well, and none of the men could produce children, and their over all health suffered terribly and some died at very young ages. At age 3, my late father remembered the smell of smoke from the Tulsa Race Riots (He'd be 103 if he were alive). Both parents KNEW slaves, and the stories they told them they my parents shared with me still haunts me at night sometimes, and I'm 60.

I say all of this to say that I don't think that those people were making a statement. I can't say for certain, but I think that maybe they were scared of the Covid-19 shots. My nieces know many African-Americans in their 30's and 40's who are scared to take the Covid-19 shots, because of the history of Tuskegee, and they still don't trust this country. See George Floyd, who was murdered in front of the world and see other AA who are still being murdered by many racist and out of control cops. Both nieces took their shots months ago, and are doing well. One niece is a nurse, and she's encouraging as many AA to take the Covid-19 shots/mask-up/wash their hands as she can, and she told me that for the most part, all she's asked have taken, and completed their vaccine shots and are following masking rules etc. She is having trouble with several though to be honest, and like I said these are very young people. I've been vaccinated for many months, and I'm fine, but I know a few elderly AA women in their 80's & early 90's who absolutely refuse to take the Covid-19 shots. I at least got a few of them to wear masks/stay distanced when people come to their doors or when they are with relatives driving around, but that's as far as I've gotten with them. I'm going to keep trying, and keep offering to make their appointments and go with them, but so far it's a HARD no go. All are mentally sharp, but still won't take the shots due to years of what they/family members/friends/neighbors saw and experienced in their life times down South during Jim Crow/lynching's etc. Their own grands/children can't make then get their shots, but I'll still keep on trying, because when I look at them, I see my late Mom, late Aunts et al., and so I'll keep trying to convince them to get their Covid-19 shots 🤞🏻


What kinds of testing was our gov performing on blacks Anon-C Jul 2021 #1
It was a syphilis study iemanja Jul 2021 #33
The stupid thing was the study DENIED the study drug to those Hortensis Jul 2021 #70
Sorry, but I don't get it. Because of something that happened 80 years ago? Walleye Jul 2021 #2
Here's some info that will help you understand why they refused the vaccine. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2021 #5
They are both dead from covid now. LisaL Jul 2021 #6
Of course, and I know that. I was responding to the poster above me who didn't understand ... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2021 #7
I read it. Still doesn't make sense,hundreds of millions of all races have gotten this vaccine Walleye Jul 2021 #8
thank you Skittles Jul 2021 #10
You are absolutely right. This is just foolishness. Drunken Irishman Jul 2021 #26
Thank you. It's frustrating Walleye Jul 2021 #34
Don't Forget The Conspiracy Theorists Who Said COL Mustard Jul 2021 #32
It Doesn't Make Sense RobinA Jul 2021 #66
They need to learn the difference between critical thinking and judgemental, I believe Walleye Jul 2021 #67
Zero reason NoRethugFriends Jul 2021 #9
That would be a valid reason IF the Covid-19 vaccine was only intended for minorities. LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #24
Thank You CaliforniaPeggy .... LenaBaby61 Jul 2021 #31
I had a black coworker who refused to get a flu shot zuul Jul 2021 #25
It is ridiculous paranoia cinematicdiversions Jul 2021 #53
I'm sorry for them, but really...Take a look around you black people are dying from this thing. Dream Girl Jul 2021 #3
"They" are getting it, too. Random Boomer Jul 2021 #15
Nothing works. I've tried every argument. She thinks it's cute Dream Girl Jul 2021 #23
I'm really sorry to hear that. Random Boomer Jul 2021 #44
Well put. Dream Girl Jul 2021 #46
A university graduate did this??? IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2021 #4
A Tuskegee University graduate did this IronLionZion Jul 2021 #13
And the fact that the government regularly christx30 Jul 2021 #55
The Darwin award is an equal opportunity award Fullduplexxx Jul 2021 #11
After Tuskegee was exposed, there were regulations banning that sort of thing IronLionZion Jul 2021 #12
Except for the Korean War CIA LSD experiments slipping unsuspecting Submariner Jul 2021 #37
Conservatives claim COVID is all a deep state plot IronLionZion Jul 2021 #41
The Tuskeegee experiment involed denying treatment to... brush Jul 2021 #14
The Tuskegee Experiments GB_RN Jul 2021 #16
Kind of hard to fathom how that could have happened in the "greatest country on the planet*" groundloop Jul 2021 #19
Covid doesn't give fuck about one's experiences. n/m BradAllison Jul 2021 #17
Tragic, tough understandable. Jirel Jul 2021 #18
how does it make sense Skittles Jul 2021 #36
As a Black man, I say BULLLLL Fucking Shitttt that is Understandable!!! AllTooEasy Jul 2021 #54
Thank you for your voice of sanity! SunSeeker Jul 2021 #62
thank you Skittles Jul 2021 #63
Millions of blacks and non-blacks alike have received the vaccine. OnlinePoker Jul 2021 #20
While the Tuskegee experiments were a shameful episode in history, it's just that: history. Vinca Jul 2021 #21
They studied at an institute of higher learning? oasis Jul 2021 #22
I am not Black and I am vaccinated, but I think this is tragic. TNNurse Jul 2021 #27
It is. But don't miss that they exhibited the same moral black hole Hortensis Jul 2021 #71
Pity. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #28
No way to know for sure, and no one to ask, since they are both dead. LisaL Jul 2021 #30
I wonder if they were genuinely, honestly, truly fearful and distrustful. LenaBaby61 Jul 2021 #38
Thank you for trying. Maybe hearing about this couple will sway them. femmedem Jul 2021 #43
Ridiculous sacrifice of two worthwhile lives. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #29
Looks like the original Tuskegee "researchers" won again . . . Journeyman Jul 2021 #35
Makes no sense at all treestar Jul 2021 #39
that study began in the 30s barbtries Jul 2021 #40
That's still fifty years ago. LisaL Jul 2021 #42
it has to do with faith in government programs. barbtries Jul 2021 #45
There was a segment on CBS' Evening News about a woman who buried her son, who had refused Hestia Jul 2021 #47
I'll Just Say This GB_RN Jul 2021 #48
From this Black man - "White People, please be judgemental of these idiots" AllTooEasy Jul 2021 #56
Thanks For The Feedback, My Friend GB_RN Jul 2021 #59
I feel for their familiy & wish they had got the vaccine but CC Jul 2021 #49
Scratch an anti-vaxx death and find Kennedy Richard D Jul 2021 #50
OMG. That is sickening. Literally. SunSeeker Jul 2021 #61
Damn that scumbag to hell The Mouth Jul 2021 #64
:( sakabatou Jul 2021 #51
Another Reason Why Critical Race Theory DallasNE Jul 2021 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Jul 2021 #57
Peace to their families. I'm deeply sorry for their loss here. herding cats Jul 2021 #58
It makes absolutely no sense to refuse the vaccine because of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study. SunSeeker Jul 2021 #60
Maturity is understanding that just because SOME things were and are bad, not ALL things are bad greenjar_01 Jul 2021 #65
These people are just as dumb as the white GOPers who won't get the vaccine Jose Garcia Jul 2021 #68
Didn't realize that the Tuskegee experiments were started under the FDR administration MichMan Jul 2021 #69
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