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bottomofthehill

(8,318 posts)
59. On a max of 20 years and prosecution asking for 18 months
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jul 2021

I would have sentenced 19 months to send the signal that Domestic Terrorism will not be tolerate. It was involved in an attack on the Capitol where people died. He was on the Floor of the Senate so was clearly directly responsible for the Senate going into recess this stopping the electoral college count process.

I would think that slightly more than what the prosecution was asking sends a message, I also think that sentencing less than half of what they were asking also sends a message that this was no big thing.

This man was involved and convicted in an act of domestic terrorism against the United States, terrorized thousands of people who work at the capitol and millions more watching on TV. To me, it warrants more than 8 months.

Damn. I need to see the bright side -- he is now a convicted felon. NCjack Jul 2021 #1
8 months IN prison. Good. Any amount of time IN PRISON fwvinson Jul 2021 #56
Folks will be disappointed DownriverDem Jul 2021 #91
Thanks for explanation. NCjack Jul 2021 #93
Which means 4 months. For participating in an attempt to overthrow the government. Not good enough. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #2
He'll serve at least 7 months. GregariousGroundhog Jul 2021 #7
He's already done 6 months Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #27
He has? AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2021 #83
Subtract time served. He might have already done 4-5 months of it. Bengus81 Jul 2021 #67
He's A Felon Now COL Mustard Jul 2021 #52
Impacts his ability to get a job, period, much less a federal job. paleotn Jul 2021 #80
I bet there will be a little Q subgroup that makes a point of hiring these guys. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #81
Might be. paleotn Jul 2021 #82
Look at the charges DownriverDem Jul 2021 #92
He is on the Floor of the Senate bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #3
He probably claimed the gloves and goggles were 'cause of COVID. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #38
He will be out in a month - and branded a hero Tiger8 Jul 2021 #40
gee, a whole 8 months for committing a terrorist attack against the US Capital. nt yaesu Jul 2021 #4
Yup, meanwhile, that guy who tried to vote in Texas but wasn't supposed to nattyice Jul 2021 #6
The two people in Texas who have been arrested for illegal voting are both black. Lonestarblue Jul 2021 #11
Domestic terrorism, 8 months bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #58
I'd have preferred a longer sentence, but I look at it this way: Ocelot II Jul 2021 #5
Agreed Dopers_Greed Jul 2021 #12
IDK, OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #39
If he moves to the right district Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #46
I'm with you in your way of thinking. He's going to lose his physical freedom Texin Jul 2021 #19
Or until he's pardoned Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #47
Well said. He's going to prison. traitorsgalore Jul 2021 #20
I'm with you in your way of thinking. He's going to lose his physical freedom Texin Jul 2021 #23
In Florida, he'll be able to vote if he doesn't owe court fees, fines or restitution William Seger Jul 2021 #32
He will still owe, and have to pay, restitution. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #34
I do worry about these people having guns William Seger Jul 2021 #49
It's a federal sentence; not sure FL can do anything about it. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #50
Should have been ten times longer. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #8
An absolute travesty... Wuddles440 Jul 2021 #9
Brits call this preposterous shit "weak tea" bringthePaine Jul 2021 #10
He wil be hipped and ready to go,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2021 #13
he's got 2 years to keep clean after he gets out.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #24
Gotta show that the Dems are weak AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2021 #84
well, it was certainly meant to get people upset.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #87
While he sits in prison and can't find work again, Ivanka and Don Jr are buying mansions.... Jon King Jul 2021 #14
Obviously, they don't care. Justice matters. Jul 2021 #64
They'll still send them their money too. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #79
WTF ??? 8 months on a charge with a max of 20 yrs. Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #15
I question his character as an actual human being. Jay25 Jul 2021 #18
Here's a quote from the judge: traitorsgalore Jul 2021 #21
The judge would have applied the federal sentencing guidelines. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #22
It was 18-20 months, not years obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #53
That was what the prosecution wanted, The article Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #66
Federal prosecutors requested 18 mos. - defendant was first to plead guilty to felony charges Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #16
I'm satisfied with this. Maybe it will prompt some of the others to plead guilty too. One night... George II Jul 2021 #17
Weak sentence. Nothing satisfying about it. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #25
What would you have given him that would have been consistent Ocelot II Jul 2021 #28
On a max of 20 years and prosecution asking for 18 months bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #59
THEY ATTACKED THE UNITED STATES! These aren't pick pockets Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #68
Shit!! They tried to overthrow the Government,change an election and people DIED Bengus81 Jul 2021 #70
The judge.. Wuddles440 Jul 2021 #89
he also got 24 months of supervised probation and a $2k fine.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #26
Yup, which means drug tests and other restrictions obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #54
He will probably have to pay about $50 a month for his probation meetings also. TexasTowelie Jul 2021 #73
I wondered if that played a role in him getting a shorter sentence. n/t davsand Jul 2021 #74
Very disappointed. He will be a hero patriot for 35-40% of U.S. Nothing here to deter. Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #29
Correct. old guy Jul 2021 #33
Probably have his own talk show or be a frequent guest on Fox. Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #37
This sentence is nothing to sneeze at Dopers_Greed Jul 2021 #30
Not to mention the record that stays with you. nt oldsoftie Jul 2021 #36
STILL not enough! calimary Jul 2021 #41
I guess the lessons to be learned is that justice is not blind, nor equal and Jay25 Jul 2021 #31
Now follow it up with a few 100 MORE. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #35
A few hundred more MONTHS. To that kind of sentence, anyway. calimary Jul 2021 #42
Having a felony record is serious business. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #43
Look at how many of them are from Texas. They can have guns in three years,vote again etc.... Bengus81 Jul 2021 #72
Or he could have gotten probation. Which I expected. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #78
Gosh...now another Oath Keeper pleading guilty in about an hour..... Bengus81 Jul 2021 #95
I can't reconcile a "damage that will persist for... LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #44
Felony convictions also persist for a lifetime. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #48
I wouldn't be so sure about that. LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #55
Potential employers do not see convicted felons as honorable. onecaliberal Jul 2021 #85
one more asshole that cant own a gun anymore.... rdking647 Jul 2021 #45
he should never get out of prison. he's a traitor. rockfordfile Jul 2021 #51
Apparently, he appealed to the judge for no jail time as he is an apprentice mechanic Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #57
I'm very conflicted bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #60
He was also ordered to pay a $2,000 fine. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #71
10 years wouldn't be excessive. Sentencing guidelines aren't law. This is scum being coddled. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #75
They are guidelines but judges can't just ignore them. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #76
I'd be interested to know what the "top end" of the sentencing guideline here was. Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #77
Be part of a bank robbery and someone is killed; SayItLoud Jul 2021 #61
White male privilege. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #62
Another insurrectionist sentenced to a walk in the park for Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #63
I suspect the people charged who have committed assault or are documented totally Vinca Jul 2021 #65
Mike Pillow needs to move the date of the next Government overthrow attempt to Oct/Nov Bengus81 Jul 2021 #69
8 Months is not enough. He should be in for life... clementine613 Jul 2021 #86
They laid the hammer down inwiththenew Jul 2021 #88
8 months for treason ShepKat Jul 2021 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #94
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