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25. How can it be justified? Don't these cops go to shooting class/practice?

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 14, 2021, 09:57 AM

Apr 2021

Why is it that they always shoot to kill? Why can't they shoot to disable temporarily, even at close range they shoot to kill.

I find it so horrible and unthinkable on how a human can even think about killing another human just because they can. I understand self-defense, but either these cops are not trained well or they are just hungry to kill.

It is never justified when there are other options, there are, they should be able to shoot to the legs, to the arms, anywhere in the body where the victim will not die.

All these crap about "all life is precious", mainly from republicans, but then they go out and kill, they start wars, a killing is just old news, very little sensibility and empathy towards the victims...No, no killing is justified when there are other options.

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Maryland trooper fatally shoots teen armed with airsoft gun [View all] Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 OP

Suicide by cop? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #1

Possibly so. On the face of it, the shooting appears justified. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #3

Just had a similar occurance in Upstate NY whistler162 Apr 2021 #12

How can it be justified? Don't these cops go to shooting class/practice? Escurumbele Apr 2021 #25

... MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #28

No it isn't, the IDF does it to minimize casualties. Mosby Apr 2021 #90

Yeah MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #91

The goal isn't to kill people. It's to prevent them from harming the officer or Calista241 Apr 2021 #100

Law enforcement is trained to always aim for the body. summer_in_TX Apr 2021 #126

Exactly!!!!!! nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #127

Why are cops always assuming the worst? Mr. Evil Apr 2021 #41

Rubber bullets? Really? Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #44

Yea they sting, not kill. That was the point. flying_wahini Apr 2021 #75

And police only using rubber bullets would be helpless against crimnals with real guns. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #79

Gunfight in the streets ... Grins Apr 2021 #97

that is the only solution, because the police are dealing Tumbulu Apr 2021 #98

Yes, I remember that. The guy not only had more fire power but full body armor as well. Quakerfriend Apr 2021 #112

Yes! momta Apr 2021 #113

No, it doesn't work that way Random Boomer Apr 2021 #43

Cops are trained to shoot square in the chest, a kill shoot, usually multiple rounds. The way it is. rickyhall Apr 2021 #55

Everyone who takes defensive shooting training sarisataka Apr 2021 #61

Off topic, but, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #62

Say the officer did attempt an arm or leg shot sarisataka Apr 2021 #63

Or, attempts an arm or leg shot, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #64

Or misses the shot, but as a result draws attention to himself and leaves himself exposed ET Awful Apr 2021 #66

Shooting arms, legs, etc. is not a viable option. Those are small quickly moving body parts that ET Awful Apr 2021 #65

Because if there isn't a justification to shoot to kill... eggplant Apr 2021 #67

That's not how it works and never has been. BradAllison Apr 2021 #89

I agree was probably suicide by cop ripcord Apr 2021 #36

He did seem determined to force the cops to kill him. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #38

Appears that way sarisataka Apr 2021 #49

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #50

Hey MCE DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #111

Then again... momta Apr 2021 #114

Touche' my friend, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #115

I wouldn't let my child have a bb gun that looked like the real thing. Karadeniz Apr 2021 #129

Neither would I. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #130

I wouldn't let a child have an Airsoft "gun" that looked real. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #133

That's if we believe the police officer's narrative ecstatic Apr 2021 #141

Suicide or stupidity if aiming at officer Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #2

"Armed" with an airsoft weapon. marble falls Apr 2021 #4

? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #5

Which is virtually indistinguishable from a real one under these circumstances. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #6

No "quotes" needed. Yes, he was ARMED. Pretty convincing looking, too... even up close. NurseJackie Apr 2021 #7

Yup looks exactly like a real gun EXCEPT THE MUZZLE IS PAINTED ORANGE!!! Tbear Apr 2021 #9

Not always paint Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #11

You've got a fraction of a second to make a decision. OnlinePoker Apr 2021 #13

A half-second to react IF you are surprised Tbear Apr 2021 #24

It's very easy to remove the orange tip or paint it the same color as the gun. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #15

From the factory, yes. But a quick Google search shows countless discussions of Airsoft owners Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #16

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #19

No I expect that they stop shooting our children. Tbear Apr 2021 #26

And when a 16 year old "child" points a realistic-looking weapon at an officer, they should Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #39

What was the range? 10 feet? 30 feet? More importantly Tbear Apr 2021 #47

When someone is believed to be armed, 30ft is nothing. Watch the "21ft rule" video. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #56

Oh I know Tbear Apr 2021 #59

It's orange when it can be seen clearly in static photographs or in proper light... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #17

Yeah, I don't know...... Chakaconcarne Apr 2021 #21

The officer was called to the scene so there was no surprise Tbear Apr 2021 #30

You don't know, yet you're calling bullshit on this shooting? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #31

I have 2 air pistols SoCalNative Apr 2021 #34

Kid here took the plastic off and got killed The Mouth Apr 2021 #48

Maybe his wasn't Polybius Apr 2021 #80

Not necessarily true whopis01 Apr 2021 #93

I'm gonna vote for the nickel plated sissy pistol being an airsoft pistol. N/t Calista241 Apr 2021 #103

You are correct on that one. n/t whopis01 Apr 2021 #131

Agree happy feet Apr 2021 #106

Agree happy feet Apr 2021 #109

He also had a knife. Does it matter what color that was? Jose Garcia Apr 2021 #122

A can of black spray paint costs $1 NickB79 Apr 2021 #125

Why on earth would people want to have these as "toys?" colorado_ufo Apr 2021 #77

I've played paintball. In it, you essentially pretend to kill each other. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #81

I played laser tag once, and even then, it felt uncomfortable to me. colorado_ufo Apr 2021 #85

I Hate Those RobinA Apr 2021 #96

Someone who robs a 7-11 with his pointed finger in a jacket pocket is also "armed"... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #27

Quick - which of the guns in the picture below are airsoft weapons and which are real? ET Awful Apr 2021 #68

Even with my weapons training, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #70

Likewise, and exactly my point. n/t ET Awful Apr 2021 #71

Armed" with an toy gun! FSogol Apr 2021 #73

A 16 year old should know better than to point a gun, even a replica, at a police officer. colorado_ufo Apr 2021 #82

It's only a matter of time before gun carrying individuals dab some orange paint... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #8

The purpose of that would be? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #10

To deceive and make someone question the authenticity of the weapon aimed at them... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #14

There have been reports of this happening for at least a decade or so. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #18

I guess I'm not as demented and deranged as previously thought. NurseJackie Apr 2021 #23

Karens gotta STOP calling police on kids playing with toys. Cops gotta stop shooting to kill. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #20

They shoot for center of mass, which is wholly appropriate. What do you expect them to do, Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #22

Apparently, someone up thread believes that. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #29

No I would not expect the typical police officer to Tbear Apr 2021 #35

Yet, you've already called bullshit on the shooting? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #37

The kid was down on first shot. THEN the cop fired a second shot. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #118

The second shot was fired, according to the police, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #121

I might have waited to see what happened. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #137

I agree with you, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #138

The kid was down on first shot. THEN the cop fired a second shot. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #117

Real life isnt like TV. You shoot for the center. "Aim for the leg" & you're likely in trouble. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #57

The kid was down on first shot. THEN the cop fired a second shot. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #119

Victim was a white male. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #140

Nope. I see somebody walking stopdiggin Apr 2021 #107

Does the name Tamir Rice ring a bell? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #120

Tamir Rice was never even given the chance to put down the "gun" MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #123

I remember Tamir Rice stopdiggin Apr 2021 #124

Look folks Tbear Apr 2021 #32

Nobody is declaring it a justified homicide, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #33

YOU Tbear Apr 2021 #40

No I did not. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #42

Fair enough Tbear Apr 2021 #45

,,, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #46

History of being armed is a little different than known to own an air soft gun Tbear Apr 2021 #53

,,, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #54

Yeah, shooting those Columbine "kids" wouldnt have been justified at all, right? oldsoftie Apr 2021 #58

Columbine kids were actually shooting real guns with real bullets Tbear Apr 2021 #72

YOU said "Its bullshit when a kid gets shot by a cop". Not "carrying a fake gun". oldsoftie Apr 2021 #102

How do you know he was black? BradAllison Apr 2021 #95

You may want to check sarisataka Apr 2021 #104

Obviously you don't know much ripcord Apr 2021 #132

You might want to either edit or delete this post. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #139

I am among those.... quickesst Apr 2021 #51

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #52

Sometimes.... quickesst Apr 2021 #128

This is fucked up all the way around lillypaddle Apr 2021 #60

Realistic looking toy guns have been around for a very long time. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #74

Guess I didn't know that lillypaddle Apr 2021 #116

Just to make it visible . . . Which of the following is a real gun and which is airsoft? ET Awful Apr 2021 #69

A buddy of mine likes to play those airsoft games MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #76

So, I'm gonna bet that the pistol with both the laser and the suppressor is an airsoft weapon. Calista241 Apr 2021 #105

Just a guess discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #134

The original UPI report is based on a statement released Tbear Apr 2021 #78

All good points. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #83

Justified according to the Maryland State Police initial statement Tbear Apr 2021 #86

True, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #87

It's the whole fucking gun culture we live in. What can be done? No much. rickyhall Apr 2021 #84

What is left to say at this point? maxsolomon Apr 2021 #88

This thread is an embarrassment. Mosby Apr 2021 #92

If it's an emmarrassment, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #94

How so? The posters proposing such things as the police being restricted to rubber bullets, or Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Apr 2021 #99

Prediction- this won't age well sarisataka Apr 2021 #101

Bingo! happy feet Apr 2021 #108

He was white Jose Garcia Apr 2021 #135

thank you for pointing that out... stillcool Apr 2021 #136

From the St. Mary's County newspaper: mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #110