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In reply to the discussion: NDAA Critic Stranded In Hawaii After Turning Up On No-fly List [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:53 PM - Edit history (2)
It says NDAA = GITMO for Everyone. Did it happen? No, it didn't, so it wasn't true.
Was he punished for exercising free speech or for encouraging the loons who want to kill Obama on his website? Is that hate speech, incitement to kill, or fine with everyone as the rigbtwingers say?
The story and picture are out of line to the event, feeding on CT fears. The military has different rules and he knew that. The story reeks of Tea hysteria. It doesn't give much in the way of facts, just goes whole hog on CT.
Where were the baggers when Bush and the GOP passed the Patriot Act, started up the TSA, and passed the continuing NDAAs of the past?
Nowhere until an upstart (in their special world view) got into the White House. Since then we've been treated to birtherism, Islamophobia, Police State charges on everything, as if something is going on that hasn't gone on before. This guy is an associate of Alex Jones and the patriot extremists. A short list of his films:
Police State I, II, etc, Terror Storm, End Game, The Obama Deception. And this guy was armed. A group of armed guys killed some people in their attempt to kill Obama, overthrow the government, take over an army base to start a resurrection, etc. :
Juan Cole on the white terrorist plot to assassinate the Commander in Chief
If one of them were named Mohammed, we'd be hearing a lot more about this.
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/13166-white-terrorist-plot-to-assassinate-the-commander-in-chief
A white terrorist cell on a military base in Georgia plotted to assassinate President Barack Obama and stage a military coup. It murdered two former members of the cell. It bought $87,000 of military grade weaponry and land in Washington state. It planned to bomb a dam in Washington and poison its apple crop. It planned to take over Fort Stewart in Georgia.
The National Security Agency is massively and illegally spying on ordinary Americans. Peace activists are bothered by police and put on watch lists. Journalists like Amy Goodman have been beaten up for covering peaceful protests. The NYPD conducted extensive espionage on American citizens of Muslim heritage not only in NYC but far beyond their jurisdiction. Rep. Peter King of New York keeps holding hearings on the alleged radicalization of American Muslims (who are mostly pillars of the American establishment; King himself supports IRA terrorism).
But extremist white Christian soldiers want to kill the president and privately stockhold thousands of dollars worth of military grade weapons? Apparently if they hadn't started murdering people they could have flown under the radar on all that.
All those right wing politicians and commentators who kept hammering Obama as a foreigner, a Muslim, illegitimate, a budding dictator they created the hothouse atmosphere that fostered this kind of evil.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021223239
See what hothouse this guy was heating up here:
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/
People here can excuse the Obama hatred, but the fact is others have fallen victim to Tea terrorism that are much lower on the totem pole. Need I cite the examples to show why perhaps the military had other reasons other than this restricting this innocent lamb from flying with them?
The Jonesers and baggers have a goal that is against the purposes of DU. Not progressive, not liberal, not Democratic. In fact, against all of that. The end result of their agitation and fearmongering is libertarian paradise, no police, fire department, taxes, military, no government, just the big bigots with money and no respect running the show in a Christofascist nightmare for millions, but the dream of the Koch family.
I don't see this crowd he's a part of, located down in Texas, getting worked up about equal rights for all, a woman's right to choose, redefining rape, forcing women to consent to visitations of their chidren by rapists as is now legal in 27 states, telling them to stay at home with abusive spouses, transvaginal ultrasounds, etc.
They approve of banning all abortion, even at the cost of the mother's life. They want government, regulations, laws against discrimination. all of it swept away. So their much ballyhooed view of civil rights and authoritarianism don't move me.
When they start to care about the people I do, who are in the gunsights of these promoters of Teaparty values and shutting down others' right to speak, as they have done since the ACA was proposed, and at gunpoint and with acts of terror against citizens, I'll worry about their concerns, because they don't give a damn about mine.