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In reply to the discussion: NDAA Critic Stranded In Hawaii After Turning Up On No-fly List [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)53. Wow! So can you point us in the direction of a real journalist then?
Thom Hartmann is not credible to you? How about Amy Goodman, also featured on RT? Is she not credible either?
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That picture is false advertising. He was left in Paradise, not flown to Purgatory.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#1
Wow. Just... wow. Being stranded thousands of miles from home and family is "inconvenienced"?
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#194
'Fuck. That. Vile. Noise.' that I said that you didn't like. Did you read further down the thread?
freshwest
Oct 2012
#198
It was a military flight. What rights did he have to fly a military flight after he lost his
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#89
My post was not apology, you owe me one, but I won't hold my breath. Read the sign in the OP.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#114
He was on a military flight, no less. The military does not have to fly an asshole who
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#85
His wife is in the military. So you want him punished by depriving him of privileges all military
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#124
If you are that asshole's wife, then I can only congratulate you, Lieutenant, on your
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#158
This dude is a 9/11 truther and Tea Party activist in Mississippi. Far-rightwing sources
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#2
And what do his political views have to do with this? Is it a crime now to have political views
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#9
I absolutely support putting people on the No-Fly based on their beliefs. I'd have started with the
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#65
Well, yes, you are defending this man. It's not my fault you didn't avail yourself
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#157
Are you comparing terrorist suspects to Americans who belong to the Republican Party or the
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#70
No, I'm comparing terrorists to a kook no military flight should have to countenance.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#82
Speech is protected. Military flights subsidized by the taxpayers are not. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#104
And when critics of Bush landed on the No Fly List you no doubt fully supported
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#108
Explain to me how this dude is owed a tax-payer subsidized military flight? Because he
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#113
Military flights for dependents are not regulated by political beliefs, nor should they be...
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#195
Mere thoughts should indeed, prevent and deny people from many things, including flight
LanternWaste
Oct 2012
#83
This was a military flight. If you depict the CIC burning the Constiution, host a website calling
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#91
You appear to be adding additional qualifiers to your original premise of mere thought.
LanternWaste
Oct 2012
#100
LA--how do we know thoughts? Through speech and action. I'm not a mind reader. But if
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#105
You don't read carefully or well. Let me repeat what I said: "I'll want a much better source
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#67
RT is more far more reputable than CNN, Fox and most of our Corporate run 'news' organizations
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#71
Allow me to explain to you just how far you've wandered into the land of fruitcakes and mixed nuts
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#73
Your nasty persoal attacks mean nothing to me, so I will not alert on them but rather let them
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#80
Get this--Wade Hicks was on a military flight--imagine that!!! The parasite is wondering
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#86
And?? Apparently his wife is in the military. I will ask again. Since when did political speech
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#99
Explain to me how a taxpayer subsidized military flight is protected under the Constitution? nt
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#112
Your question is flawed because you conflate rights with privileges. Further,
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#125
My question is pretty straightforward. If the Government punishes someone for
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#131
No--your question is flawed. You are conflating a right with a privilege. Mr. Hicks retains his
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#134
Are you asserting that a taxpayer subsidized military flight is a right? Or a privilege? nt
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#139
Should a person be punished by the military by removing their PRIVILEGES because of their
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#141
Okay--so this is a privilege, right? Do you have an actual case of someone from the Bush era, or is
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#143
Travel is a right; flying on commercial airlines is a privilege subject to rules.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#168
Um--just answered the question you posted in 162. Apparently you do not like that answer and are on
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#173
What I didn't get was an answer to a simple question even though I very patiently tried for more
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#188
Yes, incredible the reaction to any kind of free press in this country. I remember the hatred
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#97
No, but it's intuitive to know he's a fucking loon and believes in crazy shit..
snooper2
Oct 2012
#120
That's not what I've said: I've said I don't trust him and don't believe his story
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#129
Douglas Hagmann BTW is another rightwinger, whose views are promoted by Alex Jones
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#3
And again, what does any of that have to do with an American Citizen being put on Bush's
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#15
Listen carefully: I think his tale might be untrue. Let me say that a few more ways:
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#66
RT often posts news, they ARE based in DC btw, before other news sources get them I've noticed.
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#24
So, Teabag wingnut doesn't get welfare flight overseas, Putin's mouthpiece whines,
geek tragedy
Oct 2012
#147
No it does not have an anti-American bias. But nice try. It reports news and provides opportunity
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#171
It has some blatantly propaganda programs, but it also has some others like Thom Hartmann.
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#17
I tend to agree that RT's news coverage is for dupes in many cases, but then
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#122
Alex Jones likes Putin. For my own reasons, I do, too. Thom Hartmann is a serious person, IMO.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#35
We used to have posters that linked to WSWS, but with enough mockery, they switched to RT.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#64
Actually, Canada Free Press had the professionalism to report that Hicks was on a military flight.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#88
I too am on the FAA No Fly list and have been since December 2001. Early on they over-reacted
Dustlawyer
Oct 2012
#6
Not just the terrorists, take a look at this (unrelated, but you'll see what I mean):
Poll_Blind
Oct 2012
#13
I thought this Bush era, McCarthyite list had been dealt with. This was one of the abominations
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#18
Not surprising at all that he wound up on the list. Considering all the others who ended up on it.
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#47
Name your media sources, then. And your respected journalists. Help us out here.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#151
That's not true, on the contrary it has been hugely successful. Here are the facts about RT:
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#164
Yes, Amy Goodman has been snared in one too many clever phrasings and omissions of details for me.
boppers
Oct 2012
#148
I don't see him that way at all. Jones, Beck and Fox are. They add nuts and whipped cream to truth.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#119
Don't worry. Posters have strong opinions. I wish they'd stay to explain them.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#135
Lol, so you don't like Thom Hartmann, you don't like Amy Goodman and you don't like RT.
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#165
Copying the right's shoddy opinions-as-news would mean all those people you mentioned
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#196
Al Jazeera and RT are very similar. I watch both and have watched Al Jazeera since they first
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#62
RT is one of the best news sources on TV. Based in DC it gives air time to Progressives who
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#20
Please do a little research on some of those 'authors' and 'journalists' while you're at it.
Ikonoklast
Oct 2012
#33
Jones also says that Obama was behind the Aurora, Sikh temple, etc. Now he's gonna bomb us? Please..
freshwest
Oct 2012
#40
Can I ask you to remove the Canada Free Pres link? They are far right
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2012
#78
Um, no, they are a very legitimate news channel, excellent coverage of foreign news and
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#49
Well, Alex was around spreading terror long before RT. His 'documentary films' on Obama
freshwest
Oct 2012
#32
I enjoyed him for a while. What a unique view, I thought. Then realized the result of it.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#54
No, that is not RT's poster boy, but nice try. Since RT is one of my main news sources, and clearly
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#51
If you were a researcher, you would never have come here where many DUers are very familiar
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#57
And there is a perfect example of what I said about the demise of the Guardian as a credible
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#101
Nice pic at the link of Obama tearing up the Constitution and the flag in flames.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#31
More blazing info, recycled from when Obama tried to set up CCC, WPA groups in 2009, now 2012:
freshwest
Oct 2012
#42
Wade Hicks who decided to use a military flight, and wonders why he got kicked off--
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#90
should be easy for him to get off, but he says he holds an extra screening card already
Sunlei
Oct 2012
#79
UNREC for omission--the man was on a military flight. Our military does not have to carry people
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#84
You are welcome. I'm enjoying reading how military flights subsidized by the taxpayers are now the
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#107
Sabrina, your questions can't be answered until you make better ones. So clarify, please,
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#138
That's not the question. Did you make the same argument against the hundreds of people who
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#140
Okay, so you are asserting this is a privilege, then? Do you have an actual case of a person in
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#142
How is his speech infringed? It't not. He can say what he wishes, but the government doesn't have
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#103
His wife is the military. The government should not punish people for political speech I was
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#106
If his wife is in the military then she is well aware that flights are a privilege, and not a right.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#110
Then you do believe that the Government should punish people for political speech.
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#116
... A spokesman for the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center said he could neither confirm nor deny
struggle4progress
Oct 2012
#154
Well, if that statement is true, it looks like those of you arguing he was rightfully removed based
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#166
Whether he was or not people in this thread argued that it would be just fine to keep him off
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#172
What I got was a look at who cannot separate their own personal opinions from
sabrina 1
Oct 2012
#187
Phil Parlock gets to fly, then??? Amazing!!!! Always great to watch who falls for him. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#179
But he was supposed to be sent to GITMO! What about the NDAA and the Police State?
freshwest
Oct 2012
#199