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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
36. Current reality matters more to elections than trends
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 09:53 PM
Oct 2012

So while you are correct in that all those things are up, for which Obama deserves considerable credit, the reality is that all of those things are still down considerably from recent highs.

Unemployment is almost double compared to what it was when Clinton left office.

Housing prices are nowhere near what they were in 2006 at the height of the bubble.

The stock market is just barely past the historical high levels in the 90's, which means 401K plans have been largely stagnant for the past 15 years, which is what matters to most voters.

Average middle class wages have been stagnant for decades.

That's why Rmoney has been able to paint the economy as poor, even though most trends are quite positive. Even though most indicators are positive, it takes a while for the average person to realize those gains. If your house is worth shit, you are out of a job, your pension plan is going nowhere, and/or your wages are stuck in the 80's, it's hard to convince the average person on the street that all is rosy.



I find it hard to believe women were ever shifting to Romney. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #1
Bush only lost the women's vote by 3% in 2004. Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #5
that was because they used Terrorism/Fear JI7 Oct 2012 #6
they're still using it, only this time it's about other issues wordpix Oct 2012 #28
And most likely vote fraud daleo Oct 2012 #37
You're assuming that each election is a repeat of the last Major Nikon Oct 2012 #8
If Romney wins 48% 0f the women's vote, Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #12
I just can't agree his campaign has done a poor job Major Nikon Oct 2012 #13
"A poor economic outlook is bad news for any incumbent president" Yes, 4.3 M jobs in 31 months sucks progree Oct 2012 #14
I think Obama has done a great job on the economy Major Nikon Oct 2012 #33
Jesus Christ, we're getting some good people on this forum nowadays. Th1onein Oct 2012 #38
I was being sarcastic in my "Yes, 4.3 M jobs in 31 months sucks" in #14. progree Oct 2012 #39
You have completely misunderstood me. Th1onein Oct 2012 #40
Whew. Thanks much for the very kind words. n/t progree Oct 2012 #41
what's with the "bad economy" meme here? Housing starts UP, Consumer Confidence UP, progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #35
Current reality matters more to elections than trends Major Nikon Oct 2012 #36
With the global economic crisis Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #42
Actually, Romney is more prone to complacency than Obama. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #16
The Rove factor brush Oct 2012 #23
women aren't as fickle as myth implies Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #21
I'm a member of a forum polly7 Oct 2012 #31
I wish Obama had brought up legitimate/forcible rape, Ryan etc... GranholmFan Oct 2012 #2
Welcome to DU, GranholmFan! calimary Oct 2012 #3
Some of that doesn't play as well coming from the President's mouth either Major Nikon Oct 2012 #9
He also has to balance calling out Romney on his lies, and talking about his own plans. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #20
I see that as a job better suited for soft money anyway Major Nikon Oct 2012 #34
I though about the same thing brush Oct 2012 #24
K&R. Great headline. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #4
... Cha Oct 2012 #7
Great pic of the romster, looks like he's about to bite someone. meti57b Oct 2012 #15
Oh wait..but Rmoney realizes women need to get home and make dinner! barnabas63 Oct 2012 #10
women can not be paid the same as men Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #18
Repubs don't believe in equal employment rights... barnabas63 Oct 2012 #26
My Longeshoreman DAD made dinner HockeyMom Oct 2012 #25
Considering LDS views women, xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #11
Single mothers are the cause of the world's problems according to Romney. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #17
Kids from single parent homes JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #27
Precisely. Romney was trying to throw Obama off his game -- attack him on something JDPriestly Oct 2012 #30
Trying to tie gun violence to single parent (you know he meant women) households was lame even for yellowcanine Oct 2012 #32
no shelters, contraception, abortion or Lily Ledbetter Act for R$. wordpix Oct 2012 #29
Romney prefers his women in binders. tclambert Oct 2012 #19
K&R. Glad he did! Overseas Oct 2012 #22
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