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happyslug

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38. There is NO Federal property or Sales tax
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 04:14 PM
Oct 2012

Thus any exemption granted from the Federal Government is based exemptions from the Taxes the FEDERAL Government imposes and those taxes do NOT include Sales or Property taxes (Outside of DC itself). Thus what is exempt for Sales tax and Property taxes purposes is up to each local and State Government.

You could technically have a non-profit that is exempt under Federal Income Tax law, but be liable for Property taxes and sales taxes. You can also have the opposite, a non-profit exempt from local and state Property and Sales taxes, but be held to be NOT tax exempt for Federal Income Taxes purposes.

Some examples: A non-profit sells a car to non-profit person or organization, the income is NOT taxable income for Federal Income Taxes purposes BUT the non-profit must collect and forward to the state the Sales tax due on the Sale of the car.

Side note: When most people, who are NOT dealers in automobiles, sell they car to a third person, if sold for less then the car was purchased at, no income occurred for Income Tax purposes, but the sale did generate a sales tax event (i.e. the sales tax must be paid). On the other hand, if the car was sold for more then the non-profit paid for it, the difference is income for income tax purposes. Under Federal Law, no income tax is owned on such a transaction for the non-profit, even through the States will still get its sales tax.

Property taxes tend to be exempt under State Law, if the property is NOT used for any profit making activities. If the property is used on profit making activity, properly taxes must be paid, even if no income is actually earned. On the other hand, if the profit making activities do NOT bring the non-profit any income, no income tax is due.

Just pointing out the exemptions are different depending on what is being taxed. Furthermore, Federal Income Tax only applies to income from profit making activities that is actually earned. Donations to non-profits are deductible for Federal Income Tax purposes if given to organization that are non-profit, even if they engage in profit making activities and own property that earns them income.

One other point I was making is a lot of low income people do NOT donate enough to exceed the Standard deductions, thus the income tax deduction is unimportant to them (even if who they are donating to is NOT a non-profit as determined by the IRS, they total donations are below what the Standard Deduction is, thus it is unimportant if the donation was made or not). This happens a lot in regards to people who earn less then Median Income (roughtly $50,000 a year). This is the same population that Romeny attacked with his comment as to the 47% of the population who pay no income tax. The state exempt status of who they are donating to is thus unimportant to them or the IRS (i.e. if the donation is invalid, it is still exempt for it is under the Standard Deduction for the person who made the donation).

I hope she spit in his eye. Daemonaquila Oct 2012 #1
Except then she'd be operating at his lower level..... n/t DeSwiss Oct 2012 #7
Some people only understand lower level demonstrations. savannah43 Oct 2012 #12
IRS DO YOUR JOB still_one Oct 2012 #2
+1, IRS do your job. sarcasmo Oct 2012 #22
How is it that every woman in that congregation didn't get up and walk out the door? Squinch Oct 2012 #3
Because They are Brainwashed Zombies StevePaulson Oct 2012 #10
as someone who lives in Iowa PatrynXX Oct 2012 #4
“Don’t call yourself a Christian and do that,” Youngblood said..." SoapBox Oct 2012 #5
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #9
Rise up and tax them, revenue.problem.solved. joanbarnes Oct 2012 #6
I agree. ciking724 Oct 2012 #20
More information the 'the church',,,,, benld74 Oct 2012 #8
A sitting judge cannot be removed from the bench because savannah43 Oct 2012 #11
The word that jumped out at me was LeftofObama Oct 2012 #13
+!. "Who the fuck are you?" is the only necessary response to such arrogant blowhards.. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #23
People who have it in them to say that to a preacher FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #24
Anybody can learn. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #25
You'd think so, but current polling in the various election contests doesn't back that up. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #26
You are confusing "can" with "will". nt bemildred Oct 2012 #27
WILL is the only part that counts FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #30
Ah, another guys that thinks polls predict something. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #31
You appear to be changing the subject FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #33
Or possibly you do not understand. bemildred Oct 2012 #35
And in what possible way was your post #35 supposed to help? FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #36
Where did you get the idea that I was trying to help you? bemildred Oct 2012 #37
this rebellious woman says SemperEadem Oct 2012 #14
I don't think revoking their Tax Exempt Status would affect them formercia Oct 2012 #16
Oh, it still might shawn703 Oct 2012 #19
they would pay to have a political opinion SemperEadem Oct 2012 #21
The battle is over Gay Marriage rights and Iowa Supreme Court Justice Wiggins Ford_Prefect Oct 2012 #15
he’d “like to slap her” and that her husband should rise up and “correct her." yellowcanine Oct 2012 #17
If anybody needs to be slapped around, it's not the woman. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #18
These right wing 'pastors' have zero respect for women unless they mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #28
Joe Biden Has It Right: We Shouldn't Impose Our Personal Religious Views On Others! SkepticMetric Oct 2012 #29
The Federal Law has NO affect on Property Taxes, just income taxes happyslug Oct 2012 #32
I beg to differ. DeSwiss Oct 2012 #34
There is NO Federal property or Sales tax happyslug Oct 2012 #38
Yes, but there are state property and sales taxes. And that's all that I've been talking about. DeSwiss Oct 2012 #39
Non-profits have to pay the same fees as for profit corporations happyslug Oct 2012 #41
I've created and run nonprofits..... DeSwiss Oct 2012 #44
Are you rebellious unto the Lord's servants? Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #40
Ahhuuhhuuhhgg...... DeSwiss Oct 2012 #42
The American Taliban at work again. Initech Oct 2012 #43
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