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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
22. 1975: UK embraces Europe in referendum.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:01 AM
Oct 2012

Member states must vote to accept or reject EU membership, as well as subsequent rewritings of the EU constitution. Majority of member states do this via their parliaments of elected representatives; others hold referendums of the popular vote.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/6/newsid_2499000/2499297.stm

1975: UK embraces Europe in referendum
British voters have backed the UK's continued membership of the European Economic Community by a large majority in the country's first nationwide referendum.

Just over 67% of voters supported the Labour government's campaign to stay in the EEC, or Common Market, despite several cabinet ministers having come out in favour of British withdrawal.

The result was later hailed by Prime Minister Harold Wilson as a "historic decision". Britain under Prime Minister Edward Heath had joined the EEC in January 1973 when the Treaty of Rome was signed.

Labour's general election manifesto of October 1974 committed Labour to allow people the opportunity to decide whether Britain should stay in the Common Market on renegotiated terms, or leave it entirely.
In the run-up to the referendum the prime minister announced that the government had decided to recommend a "yes" vote. But it emerged that the cabinet had split, with seven of its 23 members seeking withdrawal.
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And then yet another UK referendum in 1996.

In 1996 billionaire businessman Sir James Goldsmith, who was against the 1995 Maastricht Treaty, set up the Referendum Party to campaign for a referendum on the European Union.

He spent £20m on the 1997 general election campaign but only managed to achieve 3% of the vote.
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The history of the EU and its predecessors is extemely complex and I can't give a 3 credit college course on it here. In 2005, various EU treaties were combined and modified to form a European Constitution. It had to be ratified by all 25 member countries to go into effect. Popular referendums were held in 9 member states, including the Netherlands and France, and 55% of French voters and 61 % of Dutch voters rejected it. Turnouts were an incredible 70% in France and 62% in the Netherlands. So that particular version of the EU Constitution was DOA.

TMI I know, but my point is that the people always voted on the EU, whether directly, or one step removed through their elected officials.

Well, that's an interesting one... Hissyspit Oct 2012 #1
To say the least MissHoneychurch Oct 2012 #2
I am an EU skeptic, but.. Lars77 Oct 2012 #5
All the great powers Sgent Oct 2012 #26
I suspect the US and Russia occupying the whole of the continent 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #33
Certainly it is not justifiable Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #13
Individual member states maintain their own standing military, independent of the EU. Divernan Oct 2012 #15
Seems reasonable to me Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #3
It'll piss off the far right in Europe, which is a Good Thing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #4
Not forgetting.... T_i_B Oct 2012 #7
It will also piss off the far- (and not so far) right in the US who continually disparage the EU pampango Oct 2012 #9
Every Nobel pisses off the right. It's like it's part of the job description by now. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #30
I guess since we haven't had another World War started by Germany fasttense Oct 2012 #6
The EU did that??? former9thward Oct 2012 #25
We haven't had a world war since the invention of the atomic bomb 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34
Everyone in Europe adding ‘Nobel Prize Winner’ to their CV dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #8
on par with kissenger and obama getting it SESKATOW Oct 2012 #10
The EU is the single largest donor of foreign aid to Palestinians. Divernan Oct 2012 #14
how does that compare to trade with Israel?? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #16
Your extreme view is woefully uninformed as to the current state of negotiations. Divernan Oct 2012 #19
Divernan- you completely ignored the points I was making. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #43
You're not a fan of Obama, then? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #21
Muriel - he aint no progressive and he aint no dove. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #42
EU's financial sector (Eurozone crisis) originated in US's unregulated banking practises Divernan Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2012 #12
And the award goes to: jsr Oct 2012 #17
The EU is a political project that the people never voted for. Democratopia Oct 2012 #18
1975: UK embraces Europe in referendum. Divernan Oct 2012 #22
Most countries have had referenda in favour of joining, since 1973 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #23
Good link - thanks Divernan Oct 2012 #29
Completely Wrong Democratopia Oct 2012 #36
No, I was quite correct, even if you take the strict names muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #38
I am sorry, but you are completely wrong. Democratopia Oct 2012 #44
Is this some new definition of 'wrong' you're using? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #45
a keiser classic SESKATOW Oct 2012 #48
Thanks. On behalf of the Nobel Committee, I shall sacrifice myself as a EU citizen WilmywoodNCparalegal Oct 2012 #20
Why does anyone care what this committee has to say any more? JackRiddler Oct 2012 #24
well, well! I'm heading out to Brussels on Sunday. CTyankee Oct 2012 #27
Have fun! In your honor, I will watch the noirish "In Bruges" again. Divernan Oct 2012 #31
How nice! We will be going to Bruges, actually. And Ghent and Antwerp. CTyankee Oct 2012 #32
Also check out Martin McDonagh's latest film, Seven Psychopaths Divernan Oct 2012 #39
Many, many thanks Divernan! You are a treasure! CTyankee Oct 2012 #41
MissHoneychurch Diclotican Oct 2012 #28
You know MissHoneychurch Oct 2012 #35
MissHoneychurch Diclotican Oct 2012 #37
Reactions from the European far-right: Marine Le Pen, Geert Wilders, Nigel Farage, etc. pampango Oct 2012 #40
Now the EU stands along side peacemakers like Kissinger and Arafat. Old Union Guy Oct 2012 #46
An admirable choice indeed. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #47
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