A condition of entry into any secular country should be (Reply #69)

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Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:49 AM

radius777 (3,406 posts)

69. A condition of entry into any secular country should be

that the entrant must accept the conditions of secularism and freedom of expression, where any/all religions and beliefs are open to being critiqued and even mocked. Fragility is not compatible with democracy.

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French police make arrests after teacher beheaded in Paris suburb [View all]	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	OP
I'm sure Bill Maher will have some insightful comments about this.	NurseJackie	Oct 2020	#1
I think they should plaster the city with depictions of Mohammed.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#2
I wish the attacker wasn't killed.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#3
Kid's 18 years old. Most likely would neither have the depth nor intellect to think of advancing his	onetexan	Oct 2020	#8
i wish the teacher wasn't killed	samsingh	Oct 2020	#11
Yes, I wish that even more.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#21
I agree 100%	ChazII	Oct 2020	#70
Religion rarely involves much thought.	Codeine	Oct 2020	#52
Right-wing religious violence from a country with a "strongman" leader	Dopers_Greed	Oct 2020	#4
what does this have to do with the leader ?	samsingh	Oct 2020	#12
I think he's referring to Trump here	jmowreader	Oct 2020	#14
i hate trump obviously but what does he have to do with this beheading?	samsingh	Oct 2020	#15
Nothing...	jmowreader	Oct 2020	#16
I think you're missing the point the poster was making.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#22
I think most of us missed it. Maybe he can explain it.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#63
The perpetrator was from Chechnya	Dopers_Greed	Oct 2020	#45
I think he might be referring to Chechnya ..	reACTIONary	Oct 2020	#48
France doesnt have whats considered a "strongman" leader.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#18
Macron is not a "strongman"	Polybius	Oct 2020	#36
They need to add a commandment	Blues Heron	Oct 2020	#5
no shit!	mdbl	Oct 2020	#49
no shit!	mdbl	Oct 2020	#51
This is really awful, but seriously, what was he thinking?	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#6
It's France - a secular state	Blues Heron	Oct 2020	#7
Agree they need to stop killing people for this. It's insane!	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#9
They were advised they could choose to leave.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#23
Anybody should be able to say anything - I believe in freedom of speech - but not in a classroom.	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#28
Lacite - Secularism - is the official policy of the French state.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#38
Thank you.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#54
How many American teachers were beheaded recently for teaching evolution or the Big Bang theory?	Jose Garcia	Oct 2020	#26
There is a limit on everything.	MicaelS	Oct 2020	#65
exactly. Either the learn to live with others freedoms or leave and find an island somewhere.	mdbl	Oct 2020	#50
Most do not want to assimilate. Which results in massive troubles.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#64
No, Islamic Fragility is the problem here, not the teacher.	Devil Child	Oct 2020	#10
Precisely	Sherman A1	Oct 2020	#29
someone should be terrified of free speech to the point of death?	samsingh	Oct 2020	#13
Worst hot take ever.	Codeine	Oct 2020	#17
Wow. Should women stop dressing as they please two? Should they	EllieBC	Oct 2020	#20
So your takeaway is that teachers who offend fundamentalists should be fired? Really?	Dial H For Hero	Oct 2020	#24
Actually yes. I can't talk about what a POS Trump is in my classroom, so basically the same thing.	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#33
So teaching separatiion of church and state in a civics class should get a teacher fired?	Dial H For Hero	Oct 2020	#35
So you think teachers should pander to students who have sexist or homophobic beliefs?	Withywindle	Oct 2020	#61
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This is veering awfully close to blaming rape victims because of the way they were dressed	Jose Garcia	Oct 2020	#25
I see your point. I just have strong beliefs that teachers should respect student feelings.	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#32
Where do you teach? I'm guessing not in France.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#40
And if the student believes in flat earth or 6,000 year old earth u skip science? nt	EX500rider	Oct 2020	#56
"Mr. Garvey said finches evolved different beaks	Codeine	Oct 2020	#58
What if the student believes that women shouldn't be teaching and shouldn't show their faces?	Withywindle	Oct 2020	#60
If they're that extreme, then France should think about kicking them the hell out.	rockfordfile	Oct 2020	#31
At some point Islam needs to figure some shit out.	Codeine	Oct 2020	#57
He just talked about the cartoon controversy	Polybius	Oct 2020	#37
Actually the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attack was just 5 years ago	robbob	Oct 2020	#42
I'm calling respectful bullshit here!	GulfCoast66	Oct 2020	#43
Fired from his job?	Codeine	Oct 2020	#53
Hmm...	electric_blue68	Oct 2020	#67
If he's not supposed to be depicted, how the fuck would they know what he looks like?	snort	Oct 2020	#19
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Your screen name just happened.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#27
:D	C Moon	Oct 2020	#44
Good they put the pos terrorist down.	rockfordfile	Oct 2020	#30
I'm speechless. May Samuel Paty Rest in Peace.	iluvtennis	Oct 2020	#34
Religion kills..... again.	the_sly_pig	Oct 2020	#39
Time to break out the Terry Pratchett quote -	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#41
I do understand I'm shifting the goalpost a little here ... but ...	KentuckyWoman	Oct 2020	#46
Kinda funny you mention Kudzu. Kudzu is an invasive species.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#62
religion	llashram	Oct 2020	#47
The attacker's sister was part of the Islamic State in Syria.	Codeine	Oct 2020	#55
Proper vetting of these people would have likely found that out long ago too.	oldsoftie	Oct 2020	#68
More barbaric religious extremism	pfitz59	Oct 2020	#59
So heinious! :shudders:	electric_blue68	Oct 2020	#66
A condition of entry into any secular country should be	radius777	Oct 2020	#69
Agree, they should never go to these countries. France especially is very strongly secular	JI7	Oct 2020	#72
France teacher attack: Seven charged over Samuel Paty's killing	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2020	#73

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