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cbrer

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19. These are activities filtered through Western eyes.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:37 AM
Oct 2012

Afghanistan is inherently unstable to our way of organizing a society. Their view points and perspectives are very different than "traditional" western values.

They will never (some say "never say never", I'm saying NEVER) become as we are, and adopt our ways. Kabul is a vibrant city of 4 million plus. They don't call Afghanistan the "Graveyard of Empires" for nothing.

Perhaps (big maybe) we could have succeeded with a simpler strategy of locating and removing Bin Laden, dropping a few billion, and then getting out. Some of the Taliban were still with us at the outset because of the Stinger missile trade. If we would've let them continue to run drugs and dominate their own society (sorry liberators), they would have fought beside us. But we'll never know. We're the ones injecting the currency and Western morality into this nation, and getting screwed worse every day.

I just watched a 300+ person violent demonstration because the city changed the name of a frickin' school. And butcher a cow next to a major road.

You ain't in Kansas any more, Dorothy...

This sounds like an issue for the Afghans to work out to me. PS they Don't want our "help". Vincardog Oct 2012 #1
We're just making it worse, if anything. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #2
Similar to when the US went in dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #3
Check out the topography.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #4
Well I never. dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #5
Looks like a gerrymandered district. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #6
It more or less was Posteritatis Oct 2012 #8
lol dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #9
Has anyone ever taken them aside and accused them of having an insecurity complex? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #10
It really does, doesn't it davidpdx Oct 2012 #24
China gasser85 Oct 2012 #12
Why would they? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #13
The ethnic groups are even more complex than the terrain FarCenter Oct 2012 #29
On the one hand you want to go "no wonder",.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #30
If the place collapsed any more it'd cycle back through to pristine stability. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #7
Ain't that the truth! nt Poll_Blind Oct 2012 #11
Funny how Republicans hate the idea of a strong central government here but insist on it there. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #14
I hope they take out any and all fossil fuel pipelines during the collapse triplepoint Oct 2012 #15
I'm not sure why the sure to be fighting tribes would destroy infrastructure. Socal31 Oct 2012 #16
Civilization is Electrically-Powered Mostly by Fossil Fuel and Nuke Plants triplepoint Oct 2012 #17
Finally, a punishment to fit the crime for Wall Street, Halliburton, et al .. Nihil Oct 2012 #21
An eastern king also did that to a Roman governor in the 1st Century BC. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #22
Been in that condition for 3500 years. Not exactly "Late Breaking News". Vidar Oct 2012 #18
These are activities filtered through Western eyes. cbrer Oct 2012 #19
We probably would have had better luck putting our resources towards securing Kabul 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #25
They call it "Graveyard of Empires" because someone wrote that line in a poem. ieoeja Oct 2012 #28
Always was and always will be unstable Franker65 Oct 2012 #20
Collapse? the country has never been "together". Odin2005 Oct 2012 #23
Their problem not ours. lalalu Oct 2012 #26
Guess we're never allowed to leave FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #27
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