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oldsarge54

(582 posts)
32. Now yes
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:07 AM
Oct 2012

Now why not look at the whole control system and put something unified, consistent, and checked for holes by as many people from both sides of the argument as possible. A piece here, a piece there, no. We need a big pictures nationwide look.

But naturally his access to a gun and ammo could not be infringed. Loudly Sep 2012 #1
But any guarantee of access to healthcare that could have treated this man is, wait for it... ck4829 Sep 2012 #2
Says who? Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #6
Generally rights can't be taken away without a trial 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #17
You'll be happy to hear that if he had been adjudicated mentally ill for commitment... aikoaiko Oct 2012 #86
aren't they all? n/t mzteris Sep 2012 #3
Yes, all mass murderers are mentally ill slackmaster Sep 2012 #10
If mental illness weren't stimatized, mzteris Sep 2012 #15
So his family knew he had mental problems glacierbay Sep 2012 #4
There is little that "reporting" can do. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #7
Oh I know that glacierbay Sep 2012 #20
According to the Minneapolis paper dflprincess Sep 2012 #25
It's extremely difficult to get a person adjudicated as mentally incompetent, even with Alzheimer's slackmaster Oct 2012 #31
There isn't much anyone can do about it unless he is hospitalized Marrah_G Oct 2012 #42
I know from experience - Even when you get them hospitalized involuntarily, they still... slackmaster Oct 2012 #43
And of course oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #5
On militias. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #8
The state militias still exist. Residents are still subject to conscription in an emergency. slackmaster Sep 2012 #12
Yes, but the state militias as the founders envisioned them do not. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #19
No, the unorganized components of the state militias organize themseleves as needed slackmaster Sep 2012 #22
I'm not talking about the unorganized components. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #23
So fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #52
U.S. law. PavePusher Oct 2012 #56
So.... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #58
You should read it. From Article I, Section 8, The scope of legislative power, i.e. that of Congress slackmaster Oct 2012 #63
And AGAIN For The THIRD Post fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #64
I just quoted a paragraph from the Constitution slackmaster Oct 2012 #66
Not the Case Today? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #67
Until the law changes that, it most certainly is the case today slackmaster Oct 2012 #68
You Keep Referring to a Law fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #69
You're not making any sense at all. The section of the Constutution I quoted... slackmaster Oct 2012 #70
DC vs Heller oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #14
Yes, axing half the amendment IS wrong Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #18
The LAW says that everyone is in the militia slackmaster Sep 2012 #11
Your point being oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #13
Well-regulated in the 18th century meant in good working order slackmaster Sep 2012 #21
That is why oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #26
Like they did after the Va Tech shooting hack89 Oct 2012 #29
Now yes oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #32
Sure - I have no problem with a uniform set of national standards hack89 Oct 2012 #33
We are in agreement oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #34
Why do you want to ban semi-automatic rifles? hack89 Oct 2012 #35
Gun control does not equal taking your guns. Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #39
Yep oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #48
I will concede that YOU don't wish to take my guns Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #49
That is WHy I oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #74
The well-regulated militias of 1776 no longer exist. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #24
Good Reason for it oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #27
"Empire of the Summer Moon" Paladin Oct 2012 #28
Militias are NOT a moot question. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #30
Where do you get that idea? Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #40
Yes, some states do still have provisions for a militia. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #41
I agree that this wasn't exactly what the founders had in mind Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #45
Nor did I. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #46
THAT is quite true. NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #47
1791 Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #72
The state militia system predates that. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #73
Of course the militia system predates the Revolution Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #84
Or the government may turn against it's people n/t Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #89
When the militia is activated/called up, it is very well regulated. PavePusher Oct 2012 #36
Hell yes I know the UCMJ oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #37
You brought up the prhrase "well regulated". PavePusher Oct 2012 #38
Says Who fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #53
Says the people and the law. PavePusher Oct 2012 #55
It's Called Gun Control fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #57
If I were in the milita, I would not be under Militia Regulation at all times. PavePusher Oct 2012 #59
SOOOO fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #60
Mis-direct, much? PavePusher Oct 2012 #71
So I Can Defend My Country Without a Gun fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #51
No shit. slackmaster Sep 2012 #9
I wonder if he was on SSRIs? daleo Sep 2012 #16
Maybe, or perhaps he should have been taking some kind of medication but wasn't slackmaster Oct 2012 #44
Did she have access to your guns in her house? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #54
No, I have always kept my guns locked up securely slackmaster Oct 2012 #61
Good News fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #62
So THIS Whack Job is Now Our Militia and He's Constitutionally Protected ?!?!?! fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #50
Everyone who hasn't been legally disqualified from owning a gun has a right to own a gun slackmaster Oct 2012 #65
There is a difference between owning a few guns and a bunch of guns. Also difference in guns at home Hoyt Oct 2012 #76
You are certainly consistent in your support of authoritarian, police-state measures being used... slackmaster Oct 2012 #77
Carrying guns against society is certainly immoral, if not illegal Hoyt Oct 2012 #78
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #79
WTF does that mean? Remmah2 Oct 2012 #80
All Good fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #81
If you don't break any laws 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #75
Right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #82
"they almost always do" 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #83
Mentally I'll with Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #85
Mentally you'll with guns what? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #88
Thank you for posting this here. I like when gun policy talk comes out of the gungeon. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #87
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