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slackmaster

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21. Well-regulated in the 18th century meant in good working order
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 07:11 PM
Sep 2012
Also, that law keeps being pushed just to give an excuse for everyone to be allowed a gun.

That is a Straw Man. Nobody is arguing for everyone being allowed a gun. Most people accept reasonable restrictions as long as they are made by due process.
But naturally his access to a gun and ammo could not be infringed. Loudly Sep 2012 #1
But any guarantee of access to healthcare that could have treated this man is, wait for it... ck4829 Sep 2012 #2
Says who? Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #6
Generally rights can't be taken away without a trial 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #17
You'll be happy to hear that if he had been adjudicated mentally ill for commitment... aikoaiko Oct 2012 #86
aren't they all? n/t mzteris Sep 2012 #3
Yes, all mass murderers are mentally ill slackmaster Sep 2012 #10
If mental illness weren't stimatized, mzteris Sep 2012 #15
So his family knew he had mental problems glacierbay Sep 2012 #4
There is little that "reporting" can do. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #7
Oh I know that glacierbay Sep 2012 #20
According to the Minneapolis paper dflprincess Sep 2012 #25
It's extremely difficult to get a person adjudicated as mentally incompetent, even with Alzheimer's slackmaster Oct 2012 #31
There isn't much anyone can do about it unless he is hospitalized Marrah_G Oct 2012 #42
I know from experience - Even when you get them hospitalized involuntarily, they still... slackmaster Oct 2012 #43
And of course oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #5
On militias. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #8
The state militias still exist. Residents are still subject to conscription in an emergency. slackmaster Sep 2012 #12
Yes, but the state militias as the founders envisioned them do not. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #19
No, the unorganized components of the state militias organize themseleves as needed slackmaster Sep 2012 #22
I'm not talking about the unorganized components. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #23
So fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #52
U.S. law. PavePusher Oct 2012 #56
So.... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #58
You should read it. From Article I, Section 8, The scope of legislative power, i.e. that of Congress slackmaster Oct 2012 #63
And AGAIN For The THIRD Post fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #64
I just quoted a paragraph from the Constitution slackmaster Oct 2012 #66
Not the Case Today? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #67
Until the law changes that, it most certainly is the case today slackmaster Oct 2012 #68
You Keep Referring to a Law fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #69
You're not making any sense at all. The section of the Constutution I quoted... slackmaster Oct 2012 #70
DC vs Heller oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #14
Yes, axing half the amendment IS wrong Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #18
The LAW says that everyone is in the militia slackmaster Sep 2012 #11
Your point being oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #13
Well-regulated in the 18th century meant in good working order slackmaster Sep 2012 #21
That is why oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #26
Like they did after the Va Tech shooting hack89 Oct 2012 #29
Now yes oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #32
Sure - I have no problem with a uniform set of national standards hack89 Oct 2012 #33
We are in agreement oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #34
Why do you want to ban semi-automatic rifles? hack89 Oct 2012 #35
Gun control does not equal taking your guns. Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #39
Yep oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #48
I will concede that YOU don't wish to take my guns Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #49
That is WHy I oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #74
The well-regulated militias of 1776 no longer exist. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #24
Good Reason for it oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #27
"Empire of the Summer Moon" Paladin Oct 2012 #28
Militias are NOT a moot question. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #30
Where do you get that idea? Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #40
Yes, some states do still have provisions for a militia. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #41
I agree that this wasn't exactly what the founders had in mind Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #45
Nor did I. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #46
THAT is quite true. NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #47
1791 Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #72
The state militia system predates that. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #73
Of course the militia system predates the Revolution Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #84
Or the government may turn against it's people n/t Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #89
When the militia is activated/called up, it is very well regulated. PavePusher Oct 2012 #36
Hell yes I know the UCMJ oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #37
You brought up the prhrase "well regulated". PavePusher Oct 2012 #38
Says Who fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #53
Says the people and the law. PavePusher Oct 2012 #55
It's Called Gun Control fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #57
If I were in the milita, I would not be under Militia Regulation at all times. PavePusher Oct 2012 #59
SOOOO fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #60
Mis-direct, much? PavePusher Oct 2012 #71
So I Can Defend My Country Without a Gun fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #51
No shit. slackmaster Sep 2012 #9
I wonder if he was on SSRIs? daleo Sep 2012 #16
Maybe, or perhaps he should have been taking some kind of medication but wasn't slackmaster Oct 2012 #44
Did she have access to your guns in her house? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #54
No, I have always kept my guns locked up securely slackmaster Oct 2012 #61
Good News fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #62
So THIS Whack Job is Now Our Militia and He's Constitutionally Protected ?!?!?! fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #50
Everyone who hasn't been legally disqualified from owning a gun has a right to own a gun slackmaster Oct 2012 #65
There is a difference between owning a few guns and a bunch of guns. Also difference in guns at home Hoyt Oct 2012 #76
You are certainly consistent in your support of authoritarian, police-state measures being used... slackmaster Oct 2012 #77
Carrying guns against society is certainly immoral, if not illegal Hoyt Oct 2012 #78
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #79
WTF does that mean? Remmah2 Oct 2012 #80
All Good fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #81
If you don't break any laws 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #75
Right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #82
"they almost always do" 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #83
Mentally I'll with Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #85
Mentally you'll with guns what? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #88
Thank you for posting this here. I like when gun policy talk comes out of the gungeon. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #87
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