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Response to Igel (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:34 PM

14. If drugging the transportees is necessary because of the bags, maybe the bags are the problem.

Imagine if the local police came to arrest you, administered drugs to you so you would not get "car-sick", head-bagged you and took you down to the station.

That would be reprehensible behavior and such behavior would need to be called out and prosecuted all the way up the chain of command to the point where the policy originated and was condoned.

If you don't see any of the above treatment as a problem, maybe you should reconsider your values. Also, the military does not deserve a free pass for carrying out orders.

Here is an example from WWII:

Ernst Kaltenbrunner
Count I: Indicted Not Guilty
Count II:
Count III: Indicted Guilty
Count IV: Indicted Guilty

Sentenced to: Death by hanging

By 1935 Kaltenbrunner was the leader of the Austrian branch of the SS and parts of the Gestapo. He was part of the plans to end the rein of the Austrian government, but he did not appear to be a part of the general plans for war. Rather, Kaltenbrunner was involved with the crimes against humanity. He issued orders against Jewish people, prisoners of war, and slave laborers. He took a leading role in the “final solution”. People under Kaltenbrunner’s command killed over four million Jewish people in concentration camps.

Kaltenbrunner’s defense was that he was under orders involving foreign intelligence and never assumed control of the activities of the SS police. He claims he did not know of the overall plan. This defense only convinced the tribunal that Kaltenbrunner was not part of the plans to wage war.


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